All these people saying Horn/Floyd/Marquez resume took an increase last night forget something

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  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    He knew nothing about his shoulder also if pac was injured he should have pulled out. Fighters pull out of fights all the time if they're injured. No excuses the win stands.
    Lastly pac could never beat pbf because of his ability to control range and dictate distance you like pac cant refute that point and have no answer for it.
     
  2. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Okay man if that helps you sleep better at night so be it. 118-110 forever.
     
  3. Tyson Fury Goat

    Tyson Fury Goat Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    floyd did know about the injury floyd twisted his arm and looked at him

    It was a huge fight a fight people waited for 5 years everyone wanted the fight and pac thought he was going to be allowed to get that shot before the fight if he knew he wouldnt of got that shot he would of called it off

    Pac was refused to get that shot for his shoulder the mere fact they asked for it shows they knew his shoulder was ****ed
     
  4. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I agree which is why i said 2015 or 2016 version a 43 year old pbf is shot to hell and back and would get destroyed.
     
  5. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    2 judges had it 116-112 that makes it majority score.

    And I don’t lose sleep over it, that fight was NC. You know for a fact that floyd was roided to the gills and Pac couldn’t because floyd had usada in his pocket.

    If the reverse were true, Pac won and you found out he had a medical team administer IV to him and he claimed he was dehydrated (lol) and then file the TUE 21 days after uncle bob pulls some strings. You would 100% declare the fight an NC.

    Just be real man. No need for biases here. I think floyd beats Pac all day, it’s styles and Floyd is too long and ok crafty. He described how he beat him, distance control. Pop him from the outside and illegally hug him on the inside, easy work.

    But without any bias, I know that floyd was roided. Whereas I only suspect Pac as there was never any smoking gun with him.
     
  6. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Try not to offend, try harder not to be offended Full Member

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    But let's not forget Pac came back to KO Morales twice after that close loss.
     
  7. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    He's been a full fledged welterweight since 2008.

    There are NO excuses.

    Floyd is a tad bigger, that is ALL.

    Pacquiao has beaten guys bigger than Floyd easily. He just couldn't do anything vs Floyd. That's just the way the cookie crumbles.
     
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  8. tinman

    tinman VIP Member Full Member

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    True, but say what you want. People say Marquez and Floyd are Jesus for beating an over the hill Manny.
     
  9. Up the gut

    Up the gut Active Member banned Full Member

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    Yep, because Marquez prime was an animal with precision that's rarely seen, one of the best counter punchers of all time
     
  10. tinman

    tinman VIP Member Full Member

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    This is my point. We got Mayweather fans in here still acting like hes Jesus for beating an over the hill Pac.

    If anybody is God with their logic it should be Morales.
     
  11. Jackstraw

    Jackstraw Mercy for me, justice for thee! Full Member

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    I LOVE Morales and when he came out in the 12th round as a southpaw it freaked me out! WTF is he doing?! He doesn’t realize he’s putting himself in danger! And then, Oh wait - this is Erik! He knows exactly what he’s doing!
    Erik received plenty of credit for being the first to beat the streaking, red hot Filipino, but the reason it isn’t talked about too much now is that Pac avenged himself twice with Morales. It broke my heart to see Erik get steamrolled in the third fight and subtly, but undeniably, shake his head acknowledging he quit. The other reason is that there were just a lot a great fights and match ups in that time with the Mexican trinity and Pac. I reckon it was that generation’s version of the Four Kings. To see four legit HOF / ATG guys close to one another in weight and be willing to fight each other. With the current fighters mentality of preserving their “0” at all costs it’s difficult to imagine the stars aligning again in such a way that we will ever witness that much badassery in men willing to fight one another.
     
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  12. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Actually, it's just the Floyd fans who claim this.
     
  13. Sinew

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    but did he really beat the crud out of him or is this hyperbole ? Did nt he just outbox him to a point victory? Or was there actually crud leaking from Pac body?
     
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  14. DonnyMo

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    Pacquiao fighting with a torn shoulder against Mayweather really tells us nothing about either man in that matchup.

    Floyd ducked that fight for a reason. I cannot blame him circa 09-10'.

    I'd still like to see it with a fully healthy Pac. We'll never ever know how that matchup goes.
     
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  15. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm not much of a fan of x wins over y so zs resume goes up/down

    Manny scored a huge win

    I dont think it means much for any other fighter

    Floyd beat Manny, I dont think this changes that fact. Maybe it dispels some of the shot accusations given a win like this

    Horn got a decision vs manny but it was controversial. I thought the fight was close.

    Marquez was always poison so when he won it wasn't much of a resume changer given a lot of us felt he also deserved 2 other wins