Why does Deontay Wilder and his management fear Dillian Whyte?

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  1. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    Whyte is good, but not great. He's definitely beatable. He was already stopped by Anthony Joshua.

    Yet without a doubt, he's more than earned a WBC title shot - in fact, he earned it two years ago.

    Yet Wilder avoids him, and prefers to fight old men like Ortiz and Stiverne and vulnerable guys like Szpilka. Why do they fear Dillian Whyte so much?
     
  2. Str8ryte

    Str8ryte Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lmao at fear. Youre ****in ******ed
     
  3. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    But it is fear, the fear of losing, an unwillingness to take risks.

    How is someone like Breazeale, Washington or Szpilka a bigger money fight than Whyte?
     
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  4. MeatFeastMan

    MeatFeastMan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The Wilder Bodyguard Council has protected Deonkey from Whyte at every opportunity. He's been the WBC number 1 for like nearly 2 years and not had a shot at the title. That is an outrage. He's collected the WBC silver, WBC green, WBC orange, WBC red, WBC blue, WBC rainbow, WBC bronze, WBC purple belts and so on... how much more does this guy have to do?

    Meanwhile Wilder has fought a bunch of old blokes who were decent 10 years ago. And they only picked Fury and Ortiz because they thought they were way way way past it.

    Wilder has made so many excuses for not fighting Whyte. He's said that Whyte 'isn't relevant'. That's despite beating Chisora twice, Helenius, Browne, Parker and Rivas, while also nearly getting rid of AJ. And actually, I wouldn't be surprised if Whyte isn't far off on the money side of things as well. If we remove the Fury fight, I'm pretty sure Whyte will have earned more than Wilder. And even if we include the Fury fight, Whyte still won't be too far behind.

    And Wilder's team along with the WBC have been so defensive and tactical with mandatories. They planned Breazeale as mandatory as soon as they saw Whyte shooting up the rankings just so they hoped it would bide them time. They tried to use Fury as a way of stopping Whyte from getting to Wilder by insisting that he must fight Fury in an eliminator. They have ran scared of Whyte every step of the way.
     
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  5. ipitythefool

    ipitythefool Prediction ? Pain Full Member

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    It's not personal. Wilder won't fight anyone in their prime who is half decent. (he thought Fury was finished which was only reason he fought him).
     
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  6. boxinggenuis

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    Lol. They don't. They just can't stand Hearn. If Whyte had a different promoter that fight would of been made a long time ago.
     
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  7. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Try not to offend, try harder not to be offended Full Member

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    I agree with you. But I think it is for a somewhat different reason. Fear, in the sense, that they lose the big payday, or at least a bigger payday, if DW was to fight AJ. This is why I so appreciate guys like a George Foreman who would fight anyone at any time. I really admire these types of fighters who have so much confidence in their abilities that they are not concerned about losing out on a bigger payday because they don't think they can lose. I don't think DW fears Whyte. I just think he is afraid of missing out on a once in lifetime payday with AJ.
     
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  8. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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  9. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    For me Wilder trying to do the Mayweather touch on who he fights,the zero is the most important thing for Wilder.
    Wilder does not want to give the boxing fans the fights we want to see.
     
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  10. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Exactly. His management is also absolutely terrified Whyte will expose Wilder's shaky mandible. When Whyte starched Lucas Browne the way he did, this didn't do much for his chances of fighting Wilder.
     
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  11. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ortiz was in his prime when Wilder fought him, or at least it was his prime in terms of getting a big fight. People on this forum said Wilder would never take such a big risk, and now all of a sudden Ortiz is an old bum with high blood pressure.

    Fury had tuneups prior to Wilder and never has been a picture of disciplined training, so the version he agreed to face was the same one as ever. Also, it was his first realistic opportunity to fight Fury with Fury as lineal champ. If he had avoided that fight to wait for Fury to regain form, this forum would have accused Wilder of ducking. Can't have it both ways.

    Also, you forgot about Povetkin in Russia, when Povetkin was a top five opponent. Can't blame Wilder -- who was in Russia at the time ready to fight -- for Povetkin pissing hot a week before the bout.
     
  12. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly. The only Matchroom fighter they'll face is Joshua, out of animosity for the promoter. That could change if Whyte gets a truly big win (would have to be the winner of Ruiz/Joshua, most likely) and the Joshua payday is down the drain for good. But they're not going to move for Whyte over Ortiz or Fury.
     
  13. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    No, they've avoided Joshua for years.
     
  14. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why would they do that? Fury always was at least as difficult a matchup for Wilder as Joshua. If you want to criticize him and his team for short-sighted greed, then I agree, but Wilder has no reason to avoid Joshua in the ring.
     
  15. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 The Empire Struck Back Full Member

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    I'm not convinced. I think Wilder might not fancy the build up with Whyte who will show him little to no respect going in and harangue him for the months leading in to the fight.

    Whyte's brother and his goons would no doubt be acting up on the 'bomb squad' at every press conference too. It's a recipe for carnage IMO.
     
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