Yes his resume is pretty thin. But he was going to Russia to fight Povetkin before he popped dirty. And I do think there was an honest attempt on Wilder's team the first go around to make the AJ fight, but AJ's team got greedy. The 2nd half I would blame more Wilder's team but he knew he had Fury lined up. And listen I don't care how thin your resume is, KOing everyone you have been in the ring with, except Fury which he still flat lined, is not something to be scoffed at. But I say all that to say Wilder's judgement day fights are just starting. Started with Ortiz which he passed. Then Fury which is incomplete (I do think he got edged out by a round or two, but I was not outraged by the draw, there is an arguement to be made he KO'ed Fury. Plus the two knock downs are hard to ignore.). Brezeale was a credible contender who he disposed off like he was suppose to, made him look not credible but he was. But he has Ortiz again. Then Fury. Then Whyte. Then Fury or Aj or possibly Uysk or Ruiz. His test are coming and the resume is about to pick up a lot of steam. But Ortiz was avoid big time. Hearn signed Ortiz to keep him away from AJ. Based on the Wilder fight Ortiz would give any HW serious trouble.
Point being he didn't want to fight AJ, he has clearly avoided Whyte and he cherry picked Fury as he thought he was done. He was also getting clowned by a polish football hooligan. He also had problems with a French pastry chef. Even had problems with Molina. He also won the title of some one who is as credible a champ as buster maths jnr in stiverne. I'm not bashing wilder his power is real and his athleticism is some thing to be hold. He does always seem to take the path of easiest resistance. To be fare the Breazeale ko was nice, but he was taylor made for him. I hope he does make the fights as, either him or his managers have are to blame for all the bs defences.
Say what you will but the first Stiverne fight was a top 10 HW and he as masterful in that, probably his best pure boxing night. Ortiz is his best pure win to show a chin and problem solving. Listen you can say he lost the Fury fight, I edged it for Fury, but that was a looooooooooong 10 count. I don't think the draw was an unjust result when all is said and done. Listen I really like Whyte. I want to see him fight Wilder. The build up would be fun, both can talk. Whyte has a punchers chance. But that right is going land on Whyte's chin. Whyte has been KO'ed and been down in his last couple fights. In the end I don't think it's much of a fight and people are going say he still fought nobody after, watch I promise. To say Wilder is actively avoiding Whyte because he is scared actaully makes me lol for real. He is avoiding him because he detest Hearn and doesn't want to work with him bottom line. Not because of anything guy does in the ring. I really do like Whyte and think he is good for the HW division and the WBC sucks. But they were legally contract that they had to give Brezeale the shot. And if I hear Whyte ***** anymore about not getting a shot when he was probably offered more money to fight AJ in Madison Square Garden for 3 of the 4 belts I'll puke. He would have beat that version of AJ that night. He would be all over the talk shows in America instead of Ruiz. He can say whatever the hell he wants to when asked if he regrets not taking the AJ fight. But he does. Only an idiot wouldn't. He would have blown up in America, gotten more money to fight AJ again and probably gotten A side or 50-50 vs Wilder.
You miss quoted me, I didn't say that he avoided whyte because he was scared. He does though actively avoid fighters who have a good chance of beating him. He was being forced to fight Povetkin and was on the plane before any decision was made on the test or the fight itself. He clearly takes the path of least resistance, his resume doesn't lie. Ortiz is old regardless and has beaten no real top ten fighters. He lost to Fury who was clearly not in top shape. He got the draw, but you would have to be very biased to give him that. It was nearly as bad a decisiom as Lewis/Holyfield 1. As I said great power, speed and athleticism just needs to step up to the plate and be a champion.
Point taken. But if he is actively avoiding fighters who have a chance to beat him why in the hell is he rematching a guy who almost had him out and another that everyone said did beat him? Maybe he has before but if those are his next two fights plus Whyte after I think that needs to be put to bed.
Firstly Ortiz has looked terrible since the Wilder fight, do you disagree? Clearly no where near a prime fighter and I expect Wilder to ko him I believe the Fury fight is happening when they weigh in. I also expect Fury to do a number on him. I wouldn't count Wilder out completely as he has that power. 80/20 Wilder has a punchers chance.
I'd go more 60/40 Fury. Wilder will adjust. He is a smarter fighter than he gets credit for. Think you will see a more Wilder of the first Stiverne fight. I think Wilder was pressing to get Fury out the first fight because it was his first PPV. I do think Fury has more skills thats obvious. But Deontay has more skills then he lets on. He just gets Wild when he tries to get someone out of there or presses too much. Which is one thing I admire about him. He trying to give the paying public a show everytime. One thing you can't deny with DW every fight is a show. Everyone else in boxing can lay duds except him. Ortiz hasn't really fought anyone since DW for me to judge that lol. He still looks like he is in good shape. He defintely would have beat AJ in NY. He is dumb for turning that down. I mean DUMB.
Off the Travis Kauffman fight seriously who had Ortiz ever beat. Not forgetting he is looking shot to bits if he ever had a prime in the pros.
Wilder was very lucky to survive the fight against Ortiz, Ortiz arguably did better against Wilder than Fury did up until the point he got KTFO - I get the irony of that "until he got KTFO" when the KTFO thing is part of Wilder's game, but I think Wilder was virtually saved from KTFO by the ref when Ortiz had him wobbly.
I gave up on him trying to change his reputation as taking the path of least resistance a long time ago. If he wanted it to have been another way it would of but he hid behind his 20 managers and point blank refused to prove himself to be the man in his division.
My friend saying you will see Wilder of the first Stiverne fight dosent make sense. To put it plain and simple, Fury is leagues above Stiverne in speed, movement, ring iq, size and ability. Stiverne is a walk forward, hands up fighter. Terrible comparison as Fury will choose how the fight goes due to his ring genralship, far greater skill set. As said punchers chance is all Wilder will have, if it ever happens.
