Video: Hagler vs Leonard - Who Really Won?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Rumsfeld, Jul 21, 2019.



  1. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member Full Member

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    This is GGG vs Canelo for Classic, LOL.

    Fwiw, Hagler won close imho.

    Also, I haven't watched this one in years so I could change my opinion on a rewatch.
     
  2. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The second video with the punch count is by far the most accurate

    How could anyone be dumb enough to give Leonard round 10?

    Hagler also outscored Leonard in round 11 by 18 - 15
     
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  3. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member Full Member

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    What I will say is that Leonard had a great gameplan and put on a great show. That flashy **** often impresses people more than it should. I agree with the guy that said that Marvellous' corner let him down somewhat.
     
  4. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    neither landing anywhere near that amount, compubox is complete bul, have a look at the scoring vid I posted.
     
  5. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    If a fighters ring generalship is good why would he get hit more? If his defense was better how did he get hit more, if the aggression is effective why wouldn`t they land more? But you could have a point about power v volume though.
     
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  6. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I don`t think Norris could have beat Leonard in `87 at middle.
     
  7. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not a question of a “point”. This is boxing 101. LEARN.
     
  8. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Anyone that claims "China Chin " Terry Norris was a great fighter isn't worthy of responding too. But have a good day.
     
  9. channy

    channy 4.7.33 banned Full Member

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    Hagler all day.

    Whilst SRL was a great fighter in his day, the publicity machine at the time made it impossible for MMM to get a win, the hype surrounding it was unreal and all in favor of srl.

    After the loss MM was heard saying "I cant believe they gave it to him ! "SRL".

    Terrible decision that still rages on to this day and justifiably so.
     
  10. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Rumors had it that Leonard promised Hagler a rematch after the judges give Leonard the nod in a close fight that Hagler made possible...?
     
  11. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly ... Since when does fight # 39 not count in a boxer's career, especially when we are talking about an ATG
     
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  12. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree. HOUDINI'S analysis is always incomplete

    re: power, there's really no way to evaluate that but Clancy DID say Hagler was landing the harder punches so I have to believe him
     
  13. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    well you just did which means I must be worthy
     
  14. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Thanks for the heartwarming comment.
     
  15. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    My dad is 79 and introduced me to boxing when I was 4 years old, we watched Hagler v Minter and I`ve more or less been a fan ever since, great stuff.
     
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