Maxim Dadashev dies from injuries sustained

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  1. DJN16

    DJN16 Boxing Addict Full Member

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  2. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Firstly, condolences go out to Maxim's family.

    This is an issue complicated by scenarios where a guy takes a 12 round pounding and then lands one big punch to win. There are a lot of very tough MOFOs out there but this is a sport. Here are a few suggestions:

    1. Same day / pre fight weigh ins: having people lose a significant percentage of their body mass to make weight is wrong for so many reasons. The main one is that it leaves them susceptible to injury. You could avoid people taking advantage of the situation by monitoring their body weight throughout the year. Have people fight near their natural weight. I hate weight bullies and there are plenty of them out there.
    2. Ringside stoppage: where a doctor and experienced boxing official at ringside monitor the fight for a number of signs such as consecutive lost rounds, consecutive power punches, unsteady legs etc (there would be many things to look out for). When they notice these things they have the right to stop the fight or at least perform a brief check of the boxer's health, E.g blood pressure, temperature etc.
    3. Perform standard health tests between rounds. Ask questions to confirm boxers remember things from the start of the fight, other health checks, speak with the corner etc

    I like boxing but it is a brutal sport. There is so much blood lust that we are often disappointed when someone quits at the right time. Unfortunately those last few undefended punches are often the most damaging.

    The other option is banning boxing, which I am not advocating.
     
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  3. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    McGirt did his job. Possibly rounds too late but even after his fighter didn't agree. Remember who is paying who's bills. If you're a fight stopping trainer you're going to lose a lot of business. A trainer is paid more money for a win than a loss.

    Take it out of the trainer's hands, their decision making will almost always be compromised.
     
  4. minemax

    minemax Boxing Addict Full Member

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  5. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I'm your huckleberry, that's just mah game Full Member

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    There are a ton of things that need to change in boxing, but it's such a wild west sport with so little centralised authority that things like this are just going to keep on happening unless massive, and I mean massive, public pressure is brought to bear on those who have the ability to change these things for the better.

    Same day and pre-fight weigh ins are the most easily implemented, but there's always going to be someone who tries to circumvent the rules in the mistaken belief of gaining even the minutest of an advantage on fight night. Still, it's the most easily policed and controllable variable.

    The other suggestions you make are a bit hard to implement, and there's too much room for abuse from shady or unscrupulous medical officials I think.
     
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  6. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I'm your huckleberry, that's just mah game Full Member

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    Unfortunately the case. There are things that can be improved however, and certain steps that need to be made mandatory by all governing bodies across the board. It won't eliminate the possibility entirely, but it will (hopefully) drastically cut it down.
     
  7. Pound4PoundGG

    Pound4PoundGG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    pro boxers should wear head guards too. I dont see any other way.
     
  8. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I'm your huckleberry, that's just mah game Full Member

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    This is something that the fans have immediate power to control. If you glorify 'going out on your shield' (a military term referring to dying on the battlefield) and vilify 'quitters' you're part of the problem. All the moral handwringing in the world isn't going to matter a damn in situations like these if you just go back to your same old BS the next minute. Let's see if this tragedy makes fans change their ways. I won't hold out hope.
     
  9. dandur55

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    R.I.P brother, very sad news

    I think Boxing/MMA referees should pass very strict exam rules about damage, very good understanding of right time stoppage rules....

    My deepest condolences to family of Maxim
     
  10. JabCross727

    JabCross727 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Honestly, I don't know about you but I have to agree with Max Kellerman. I don't recall an exact instance where you could point to and say, "Dadashev is done and in bad shape...stop the fight." It's just one of those bad and unfortunate things that happens in a violent sport as boxing. Every time a fighter goes into the wrong, they go in knowing all the risks that can befall them. I am all about a deeper investigation to make sure everything else with EMS and transport to the hospital.

    In any event, let's just keep Dadashev's family in our prayers.
     
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  11. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

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    You're right. That mentality has been an integral part of the fabric of boxing culture for generations, however. It won't change overnight. :ohno
     
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  13. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Headguards don’t prevent concussions. Maxim’a situation was caused because he fought someone who didn’t punch hard enough to knock him out. There is evidence that bare-knuckle is safer.
     
  14. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Same day weigh-ins already existed and didn’t fix the problem. It causes fighters to enter the ring while dehydrated.
     
  15. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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