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  1. BoxingDialogue

    BoxingDialogue Active Member Full Member

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    Kone is a *****
     
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    Max Kellerman breaks it down well here regarding the tragic fight last weekend.
     
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    JabCross727 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I heard somewhere that we need to go back to same day weigh-ins. While I like the idea of that and taking away any rehydration advantage, you are taking away one important thing to mitigate against potential brain damage: hydration.

    Although in some jurisdictions the doctor can stop the fight, they should have a more active role as in the NFL with concussions. This is just one thought. But like Max said, it's kind of hard to pinpoint when you could perceive Dadashev was in trouble. Boxing is a violent sport and from time to time, despite all safety precautions, this can happen. They can do a full investigation to make sure all things were done properly. But, this is boxing. And fighters know very well what the risks are and what may befall them every time they step into the ring. Dadashev's death is unfortunate. Let's just pray for his family.
     
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    There is no way. The problem is that boxers are getting better, faster and stronger, also the ped supplementation is getting better and better. Everything is getting better besides the brains ability to take a punch, so there lies the whole problem.
     
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    Boxing is what it is, a brutal unrelenting sport for crazy, warriors. Sure there are small steps you can take to make it a little safer, but just like football, hockey, or mma, it will always be a brutal, violent, life altering sport. Those who choose it, know the dangers going in, nobody is forced to fight or play dangerous sports. The average age of an NFL player who plays 3 or more seasons is 54 years old, think about that. Boxing is very dangerous, always has been, and always will be.

    I played hockey for 20 years, and suffered numerous concussions(probably in the double digit range) one of my best friends I played for with for years, in a minor league game, was hit behind the net by an elbow to the head and ko'ed, his helmet came off and his head cracked off the ice. He was in a coma for 4 weeks and has permanent, severe brain damage to both sides of his brain. He's not the same person he was and never will be, he can walk and talk however and still loves hockey and says he'd do it all over again. He knew what he signed up for. If you're scared of getting hurt, don't fight or don't play. It's pretty harsh, but pretty simple.
     
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    Fans are part of the problem too. If a fighter shows an inch of quit or a trainer or ref stops a fight "early" then they get all kinds of hate from fans.
     
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    70oz gloves.
     
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    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Unfortunately this. Boxing isn't safe and it will never really be safe. You're taking concussive shots to the head and body while at the same time exhausting your body's stamina. The best thing that can be done is to be overly cautious re: stopping fights that are clearly lopsided in favor of one fighter (ie. a fighter is clearly down 7-1 going into round 9), and/or taking every precaution regarding diagnostics and summary physical exams post-fights.
     
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    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    This is part of the deal...it's heart breaking but it's unavoidable. These guys understand what they are signing up for, they know they are risking their lives, and they believe it's worth it.
     
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    Probably with boxing as someone alluded to is the fans and also promoters and referees.

    The boxer if he quits citing health problems or injuries will be ridiculed. Glass heart, quitter to quote a few by the fans.

    The promoters who organise and the governing bodies who sanction such fights need much more Controlling. Jeez they were going to doing Allen vs poventkin not to mention Allen's previous bouts against whyte ortiz and yoka.

    The referee some fighters are given special treatment because of their ability to take a shot or known to be resilliant. They have a duty of care to the fighters to protect them.

    These unfortunate incidents will never disappear because of the money to be made from it. And that's sad in the grand scheme of things as you can't put a price on life or a good standard of life
     
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    Maybe heavier gloves may help some and taking blows to the head is risky.And I agree these fighters are on PED's and hitting harder than ever.And people thinking headgear is the answer has never boxed before. That head gear help prevent cuts but your head is still taking those blows. Padded headgear does not change that. I no longer wear head gear when I spar because the punches seem to shake my head worst with the gear on.
     
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    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Wow, I didn't know that
     
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    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Better drugtesting
    Same day weigh-ins back
    Headguards

    But it still wouldn't be safe