Dillian Whyte tests positive for banned substance

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by wallworkjake123, Nov 6, 2012.


Is Dillian is innocent?

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  2. No

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  3. Who Cares?

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  1. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dark times?

    I say bring the 90s back, it was a great Era.
    Nobody cared, nobody complained.

    Actually much more of an even playing field than now, where some who have the resources can get away with having an unfair advantage over their opponents who simply cannot afford the same PED experts/designer drugs/TUEs etc
     
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  2. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    This means nothing though. He's just making sure that he doesn't consume anything without knowledge of it. Dopers know what they are doing. They understand half-lives of all the drugs and how long it takes to get out of their system. It goes without saying that an intentional doper would be careful not to drink anything from people they don't know.

    In almost all cases of doping in sport, failing a test is down to a mistake. Maybe the substance they have knowingly taken is actually not pure and contained something else leading to the failed test. When Canelo failed his test for clen it was 100% a mistake. He will be using many drugs more powerful than clen. I bet his team were absolutely fuming when he failed that test.

    In summary if I was an athlete and an intentional doper, I'd be just as careful, if not more careful, about consuming and eating products as genuinely clean athletes.
     
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  3. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Has there ever been any examples where a high profile sportsman's b sample has not come back positive as well?
     
  4. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    I wouldn't even believe it if the B sample came out clean. I don't trust these promoters and anti-doping agencies one bit.

    Who's to say that Hearn or Whyte won't hand over a brown envelope to make sure that the B sample exonerates Whyte? Both are multi-millionaires. Whyte's future earnings are probably in excess of about £20m. You could even foresee him earning up to £50m and beyond if he ended up winning a world title and secured some unification fights.

    So what's a couple million in a brown envelope to either of them?

    Do not trust these ****ing promoters and anti-doping agencies. Anyone can be bought.
     
  5. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I can't think of any, it's just the same sample split in two, so it's pretty much only if there's an error in testing, or if it was so low as to be barely detectable.
     
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  6. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yup. Expensive drugs get faked all the time.
    PED labs aren't always squeaky clean, cross contamination is a risk.

    For example I don't believe for one second Fury was stupid enough to intentionally take Nandrolone which will make you **** hot for years.
     
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  7. Harry Bearn

    Harry Bearn New Member banned Full Member

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    They all just followed the correct protocol (ie perfectly entitled to fight if they are waiting the results of the B sample) and by not doing so (pulling the fight etc) they would leave themselves open to a whole load of legal ramifications, from Rivas, team Whyte , Sky etc

    I agree Rivas should have been informed BUT we don't know for sure they weren't, even so 3 days before a fight I would have fully expected him to have said he'd rather fight than give up a very very good payday.
     
  8. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Maybe his PEDs were tainted with it.

    I don't buy the meat excuse for one second.
     
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  9. boxberry92

    boxberry92 Active Member Full Member

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    This is probably very close to the truth, especially if Dillian's case is similar to the Billy Joe Saunders one, whereby Saunders would have been clear to fight in the UK under UKAD.

    Boxing is flawed, both from the bottom-up and the top-down.
     
  10. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    Rivas would have said "**** it, let's fight" for two reasons:

    (1) It was his biggest payday and opportunity so far.

    (2) He is massive doper himself. Look at his physique FFS.
     
  11. boxberry92

    boxberry92 Active Member Full Member

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    The fact this was the correct protocol indicates how flawed boxing and especially British Boxing is.

    Had Rivas been injured or worse, then the call for boxing to be banned would for once have been justified.
     
  12. TBC-ASAP

    TBC-ASAP Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  13. themaster999

    themaster999 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Oh dear Eddie , oh dear , oh dear.
     
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  14. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    It's funny, because I agree Rivas is probably a doper as well, but it should really just be part of the protocol to tell the opponent, so they can make a decision.

    I don't think my suspicions of Rivas really ought to change that it was wrong, that he wasn't informed of a failed test.

    Like I've said, the drug testing is clearly too easy to beat for me to even care much about the soft punishments. The whole thing is a farce.
     
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  15. alpo1

    alpo1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    this pisses me off tbh.

    it's fishy how fresh he was compared to the first fight, even though chisora was pasting him much worse.