Good point. I'm assuming a B sample would have been done as a matter of routine by now anyway. ? Unless they comes back clean then he's guilty. So .. He failed a test. If it is indeed for dianabol, it's difficult to imagine how they are going to wriggle out of that.
He might not be allowed to until a b sample has been tested. Same reason Whyte was allowed to fight. The entire PED situation in boxing is a joke.
Wasn't aware he said that. Can only assume then that they've used the VADA tests taken around the time of the UKAD tests to the hearing as some form of evidence and it's been accepted, at least to the extent of clearing him to fight, pending further investigation. In fairness to Whyte - if he deserves it - the b sample is always going to come back positive, realistically. Whyte can only really be planning to defend himself by showing he did not have the substance in his system in the days before/after and perhaps use that as proof it was ingested unintentionally. Whether that is possible, I don't know.
I suspect that's what they did. I can't see "I pass these VADA tests though !" holding up as any sort of defence in the long run though. If he failed 1 out of 100 tests, he's been caught. That's the system.
This content is protected By Mike Coppinger After being forced to fight without a title shot, despite being in the top position for over 600 days, the WBC sanctioned his bout with Oscar Rivas for its interim heavyweight title and stipulated that the winner would receive a title shot next year. Whyte survived a rocky moment — a ninth-round knockdown — to edge Rivas on points in an action-packed brawl Saturday at the O2 in London. It seemed Whyte, 31, could now simply wait to see who would emerge victorious in 2020 rematch between WBC heavyweight titleholder Deontay Wilder and Tyson Fury. Then, the news hit this week that Whyte tested positive for the banned substances epimethandienone and hydroxymethandienone, byproducts of the anabolic steroid dianabol. The report indicated the positive test was known in advance of the fight, leaving many questions. Whyte’s A sample revealed the metabolites; his B sample hasn’t been tested yet. The collection date of the samples isn’t known. One metabolite — 17-epimithandienone —was evident in Whyte’s system at a measurement of 0.9 ng/ml (nanograms per milliliter), an industry source told The Athletic. That’s nine-tenths of one part per billion, signifying an ultra-trace amount of the substance. Another metabolite — 6B-hydroxymethandienone — was found at a measurement of 3.0 ng/ml, per source, which equals three parts per billion, also considered an ultra-trace amount. Eddie Hearn, Whyte’s longtime promoter, told The Athletic on Thursday at the Maurice Hooker-Jose Ramirez news conference that the heavyweight contender was cleared by United Kingdom Anti-Doping (UKAD) and by the British Boxing Board of Control (BBBoC) to compete during a hearing that took place the week of the fight. (Hearn declined to reveal the date of the hearing.) Rivas and his team, which include promoter Yvon Michel, were never notified that there was an adverse finding in Whyte’s system nor were they aware of a hearing prior to publication of the report, Rivas’ cutman, Russ Anber, told The Athletic. “Up to this moment, nobody on the concerned parties has confirmed or denied to us this information,” the Canadian promoter tweeted Thursday. Michel didn’t return a text message or phone call seeking comment. Hearn felt no obligation to report the finding after Whyte was cleared to fight at the hearing, where he was questioned and provided information. “Whether you agree with the decision or don’t agree with the decision (to let Whyte fight), they’re the governing body,” Hearn said. “If you have an issue with that, speak to them.” Whyte and Rivas also underwent advanced testing conducted by the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association as mandated by the WBC. Those results haven’t been revealed yet, though Hearn claims Whyte passed a pre-fight test conducted by VADA. When an athlete flunks a VADA test, the organization notifies all parties involved. This isn’t the first time a fight was allowed to go through despite a positive result that was known in advance. Hall of Famer Erik Morales failed a drug test after clenbuterol was found in his system, but his 2012 rematch with Danny Garcia proceeded. “Let the truth come out before you make decisions based on a article,” Hearn pleaded. “What you need to know is this was heard prior to the fight, it wasn’t swept under the carpet. There was a hearing, he was cleared and the fight took place.” This isn’t the first time Whyte (26-1, 18 KOs) is under the microscope related to performance-enhancing substances. He tested positive for methylhexaneamine after a fourth-round knockout of Sandor Balogh in October 2012 and was subsequently suspended two years. What punishment Whyte faces if any, moving forward remains up in the air and is in the hands of UKAD and the BBBoC. "I am so disappointed with the rubbish that has been said about me over the last few days,” Whyte said Friday in a statement released on his social media platforms. “I have lawyers dealing with it and I have been told that I can’t talk about it for good legal reasons. I was cleared to fight and I won that fight fair and square.” Even in trace amounts, two metabolites were found in Whyte’s system. The BBBoC observes the World Anti-Doping Agency’s (WADA) rules — the organization that oversees drug law for the Olympic Games — which state that an athlete is responsible for what enters its body regardless of how it got there under Rule 10. Victor Conte, who founded the infamous Bay Area Laboratory Co-operative (BALCO) and served time in prison for supplying designer performance-enhancing substances to world-class athletes, says the evidence of multiple metabolites in Whyte’s system confirms he was exposed to a drug. Now, the question that remains is just how those Dianabol metabolites entered Whyte’s system. “If he was unwittingly exposed to (a PED) with no intent to cheat, he’ll have to pay the price,” Conte, who now supervises the nutrition of many top boxers under his Bay Area-based SNAC brand, told The Athletic during a phone interview Friday. Conte says he doesn’t like the rule since it allows for the possibility that someone is penalized who did nothing wrong, “and that’s not right.” A positive test under the WADA code is qualitative rather than quantitative, Conte observed. “You’re guilty until proven innocent; you must provide evidence,” he said. Whyte hasn’t shined any light yet on how the substances entered his body. He didn’t return a text message seeking comment. The BBBoC released the following non-statement in response to the events: “With regard to the above, United Kingdom Anti-Doping undertake all anti-doping procedures on behalf of the British Boxing Board of Control and any subsequent findings, decisions, suspensions and sanctions are upheld by the British Boxing Board of Control in line with United Kingdom Anti-Doping. “No further comment will be made at this time.”
Al is good to go, he just needs to up his pimping skills...Sacrifice all his talent-less boxers he been protecting & feed them to actual talent...Then he will not need to waste a lot of energy-resources covering up for mediocre level boxers masquerading as talented boxers Al Haymon has the potential to be as Great as Don King, he just needs to drop the gentleman pimp act ...
I'm guessing he either came off the dianabol months ago and tiny traces showed up erratically. OR he's been on dianabol his whole camp and using a flushing agent to mask the signs - and the masking agent let him down.
The biggest issue with the way the British procedure works, someone can deliberately dope up, get caught, appeal, get cleared to fight, beat his unknowing opponent half to death, get another fight (maybe titleshot) after and win, get rich, and maybe a year later take the concequences for the failed test.
This sounds very similar to the Jon Jones last failed test. One thing which does stand in Whyte's favour is his been tested by Vada for all camp and surely if he was cycling he would have failed a test prior. Now of course trace amounts still have to come from somewhere so maybe his argument is cross contimination.
Most peds have a detection window of a couple of days maximum. And certainly when using IV's and such it's hard to detect anything after a "flush". Say you get tested by VADA twice in a row, then there's little chance they come back a 3rd time within a day. You dope up, and then the next day suddenly another agency knocks on the door... Then you have to hope your masking/flush/dilution did the job or get busted.
Exactly, people wrongly assume that because trace amounts were found that trace amounts were administered. Like you said he stopped cycling ages ago and messed the timing up or the masking agent didn't do it's job correctly.
True, and because not many have a pre warning system in place, it's a bit of a gamble. Like I said, if VADA tested you two days in a row, there's not much chance they come by a 3rd time in 3 days time. Due to costs and (in)convenience, and the surprise effect was already those 2 days in a row. Then you can take the chance... do you dope up or do you expect them the next day or the day after that?
He'll get through this, he ain't a hardcore typical PED case, guy made all the right moves with VADA 365 voluntary. I am confident this thing will brush over, and we'll back to normal, back to the fights.... back to a unification bout with Wilder next year. My intuition is tingling, like when I predict outcomes to Whyte fights with one hundred per cent success rate. I don't believe for one second Whyte took PEDs intentionally, or was cycling or W.E this is my opinion. P.S Sorry to interrupt the Whyte bashing festival!
