Who has the greater legacy: Pacquiao or Floyd?

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Superior legacy?

  1. Floyd Mayweather Jr

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  2. Manny Pacquiao

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    67.7%
  1. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Naturally I understand the question yet again being brought up after Pacquiao's notable 3 fight streak he is on. Both are among the best and most notable to ever do it... As far as this question goes, give it 20 years but it has always been Mayweather for me.
     
  2. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 The Empire Struck Back Full Member

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    So you're admitting you think he's innocent? As why else would you care about the above. Cool. We can all move on. Glad you stopped pretending you 'were undecided and on the fence'. That was weird.
     
  3. kartog

    kartog Agent Smith Full Member

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    what Max Kellerman said
     
  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Reading comprehension seems to be a problem for you. You seem to be stuck trying to spin everything I'm saying into him being innocent. It's really quite the opposite, you believe he's guilty, and I am challenging you on the reasons you believe he is guilty.

    You continue to duck the question about him not being in training camp when the test occurred. One of the main reasons for why you think he's guilty is apparently because of Oscar's statement that he doesn't eat meat while in training camp. I'd ask you again about this but it seems that you just refuse to address the fact that he wasn't in training camp when it happened. You can believe what you want but the two reasons you give for why you believe he's guilty aren't very strong indicators of guilt.
     
  5. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 The Empire Struck Back Full Member

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    I'm going to ignore your questions until you're man enough to admit you believe Canelo. Insulting me won't change that. You making the case for Canelo being on the basis of probabilities being innocent whilst simultaneously denying that's what you're doing is perverse.

    You also drew up one of the worst posts of all time with your 'people are aware of cancer but can't stop themselves getting it is like Canelo accidentally eating contaminated meat' analogy. Bravo sir.

    You know what's super weird about all of this? I don't care if you believe him. I recognise your right as a fan of his to buy his story. Go nuts with it. You on the other hand can't leave it at that.
     
  6. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's like this : I have no reason not to believe him. I have no reason not to believe that it was simple accidental meat contamination. You put all the pieces together : he's not in training camp, he's at a baseball game with Bill Clinton right before he was tested, he's out doing public appearances in Mexico during that time where he's eating in restaurants and at a ballpark. These are indications that he had a bite to eat while out doing these public appearances and something he ate had some clenbuterol in it. Then he was tested shortly thereafter.

    Now if you don't believe that for whatever reason that's fine. All I'm trying to understand from you is why you brought up the whole statement that he deosn't eat meat while in training camp. That's the only question I have for you. Either answer it or don't but if you don't then it suggests to me that you didn't know he wasn't in training camp when he was tested and are trying to walk that back.
     
  7. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 The Empire Struck Back Full Member

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    I love how you're trying to reduce this to one question like it's a 'gotcha' moment when it really isn't. I'm telling you he's a man professional and focused enough in terms to his diet that he cuts out meat in his camp and yet he's not conscientious enough to know about a major health problem in his native country that has already affected high profile athletes in the past. I find that unlikely.

    Also good for you on admitting you believe him. You didn't have the cojones to write it out properly but you're getting there. I'm also glad you didn't try to defend that god awful cancer analogy. I'm going to credit you with realising just how poor a comparison that was.
     
  8. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    Ok, and Mayweather has Corrales, Castillo, Genaro Hernandez and Angel Manfredy. In which they were all champions and top fighters when Mayweather was the challenger.
     
  9. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Manfredy compared to Morales? Castillo to Barrera?
     
  10. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    I would pick Corrales over Manfredy. Beside Corrales KO'ed Manfredy.
     
  11. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Those guys arent that level. They're not even discussed in the ATG rankings. Whereas MAB, Morales, JMM are certified ATGs.
     
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  12. BCS8

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    Floyd is on a first name basis with all the major surgical supply distributors. They'll tell you he's the greatest :)
     
  13. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Been a fan of both since forever really, and it was always hard to pick. However, now that the coast is clear, I'll have to pick Pacquiao. In my opinion, Pacquiao is the greatest of all time.
     
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  14. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    *Pac took L's to 2 out of three of them.

    Barerra would get owned by Corrales and Castillo. Morales and Marquez would be lucky to break even.
     
  15. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Huh, they are much smaller, aren't they? Barrera and Morales won belts at 122 I believe while Castillo was always 135-lbs fighter.
    Uncomparable at all.

    Barrera, Morales and JMM are all FAR greater boxers in terms of boxing skills AND achievements than Castillo.