Will you give Pacquiao credit if he beats Thurman, and vice versa?

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What have Spence or Crawford done at 147 to make them the guys to beat?

 

Whoever won the Pac/Thurman fight could claim a good win. That's it. It certainly wouldn't put either in the top 2. Spence and Crawford are pretty much universally not only recognized as the top 2 WW but as top 5 p4p fighters. A lot of people have both in the top 3.

So Pac win was a good one for sure. But it doesn't really change anything in the division. Most people look at Thurman as a guy who was never elite and but at his best was very good. But who was far from his best. There is a reason Pac picked him.

Pacman still would be a huge underdog against Spence and Crawford.

 

Beat everybody that was put in front of them.

 

So Wanheng Menayothin is pound for pound top 5? Hes beaten everyone they put in front of him.

 

So Mark. How you feeling now?

 

Why not?

 

So hes in your top 5?

 

After seeing this, wow, he has been doing this for ages. Yeah anyone fighting since 1997 deserves a world of credit, but the way he did it is more impressive after reminding myself how long he has been at it.
There's only one Pac!

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Spence beat Brook, and also beat Danny Jacobs' chef more impressively and brutally than Pac did.

 

It's a good win for Pac. Pac fiends act like Thurman didn't just almost get KO'd by a fringe contender his previous bout though. This isn't the same Thurman that got W's over Chaves, Porter, or Garcia.

 

I think the Thurman from two years ago was hungrier, more focused, and took a better punch upstairs. The Thurman from two years ago would have absolutely whooped Lopez's arse, and not almost gotten KO'd. He would have also beaten this Pacquiao. I'm not trying to take credit away from Pac. I'm simply stating that this new, hippie, flute playing, pansy version of Thurman, coming off of two years of inactivity isn't the same Thurman that beat Chaves, Porter, and Garcia.