Canelo stripped of IBF belt

I agree with everything you posted, but you are a hypocrite.

 

How am I ?

 

He will wait for Kovalev, I think. If Kovalev loses, Canelo will fight Callum Smith.

 

Ok, so Derevyanchenko is officially a monster — Golovkin and now Canelo prefered to rather lose their title than to fight him!

 

Funy how GGG was ducking him but when Camelo doesn’t fight it it’s a good move. The hypocrite on this site never cease to amaze me.

 

This!

 

Actually I said that he'd be fighting the leftovers of Golovkin's leftovers.

But all the Canelitas were up in arms about how "GGG ducked Derevyanchenko" and how "Canelo vs SD is a solid fight."

Now that Canelo is ducking both Derevyanchenko and Golovkin, is this still a solid fight?

 

There's no doubt in my mind that GGG would always have beaten SD. Unfortunately SD has a style that is imho, made for GGG to dissect.

 

If GGG / Canelo 3 happens because of this then I'm content. Maybe Canelo will go after Andrade (who while good, is totally beatable by ginger) and then we'll be looking at a unification of titles for the trilogy. That would be a solid wrap-up imo.

 

But you have a picture of Muhammad Ali as your avatar....?

 

Canelo only cares about the WBC belt anyway

 

It goes back farther than that, those who claimed GGG was ducking Derevyanchenko were just giving GGG fans a taste of their own medicine who endlessly criticized Canelo for vacating the WBC Title when he could have fought GGG back in 2016.

Remember it was GGG who was supposedly all about collecting all the belts. "give me my belt" etc. When GGG "ducked" Derevyanchenko, when he gave up his IBF title it was used to show that GGG did the same thing Canelo did, vacated a belt to avoid fighting the mandatory.

Surely the circumstances were different, but it was an effective means to show that GGG did the same thing that you and your fellow GGG had been criticizing Canelo for doing when he vacated the WBC : GGG vacated a belt. And the fact that GGG and his fans stressed how GGG was all about collecting belts and becoming undisputed made it so ironic.

So I think the back and forth between Canelo and GGG fans are kind of getting silly at this point. Because an alphabet organization strips a fighter of a belt or forces him to vacate, that means the fighter is ducking a mandatory? In this case a fighter who already lost to a fighter (Jacobs) who both Canelo and GGG already beat. Not only that but it was a title that Canelo just won a couple of months ago and if I'm not mistaken Derevyanchenko had just again became reinstated as mandatory.

Here's an article from Dan Rafael which attempts to summarize the situation:

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/27305037/ibf-strips-canelo-title-angers-de-la-hoya

Quote from DLH:

"We are extremely disappointed at the IBF for forcing the world's best fighter to relinquish his world title," De La Hoya said. "We have been in serious negotiations with Sergiy Derevyanchenko's promoter. We offered his team an unprecedented amount of money for a fighter of his limited stature and limited popularity, but the truth is that I'm now certain they never had any intention of making a deal. But instead they wanted to force us to relinquish Canelo's belt. This is an insult to boxing and more importantly an insult to the boxing fans of the world.

"This decision validates already existing concerns about the credibility of the IBF championship. Canelo inherited a mandatory challenger by defeating Daniel Jacobs, the man who beat Derevyanchenko, so to strip him of his title without giving him enough time to make the best fight possible is truly what is wrong with boxing, and I plan to aggressively consider all legal actions possible."

The deadline was extended to allow more time for GB and Team Derevyanchenko to make a deal, but they were unable to reach a deal and apparently Robert Diaz agreed last week that if a deal wasn't reached by Thursday of this week that there would be no purse bid and Alvarez would relinquish their title.

I think part of the problem stems from DAZN's involvement. It took some time for DAZN to approve Derevyanchenko as an opponent and I doubt DAZN would be satisfied with the fight from a financial perspective had it went to purse bids. Offers were made but Derevyanchenko did not accept them, so the deadline came and went and Canelo was stripped.

None of this is as simple as saying Canelo just decided to duck Derevyanchenko. If he wasn't willing to fight him his promoters wouldn't have engaged in such prolonged negotiations to try to make the fight by the deadline. I can't imagine Derevyanchenko would end up making more $$ fighting GGG for the vacant belt than he would have gotten from fighting Canelo the cash cow but with DAZN's hands in it who knows.

Comparing it to GGG Derevyanchenko and that vacating of the belt, was there even negotiations? it seems pretty clear to me that GGG simply wanted to fight Canelo instead which is understanable and it was an either or after he decided to fight Vanes. I don't think you can pin these kind of situations on the fighters. It's troubling though to see Canelo be stripped of both the WBC (promoted to "Franchise" BS) and the IBF in a matter of months after beating Jacobs and after beating GGG last year. Who's fault is it? Who knows, was DAZN making demands, was DLH and GB low balling Derevyanchenko? Or was Derevyanchenko's promoter too greedy and wanted more $$, and didn't mind seeing Canelo stripped and thinking he'd have a better chance of winning the IBF by fighting GGG in a vacant title match? Who the hell knows, but to blame it on the fighter or accuse a fighter of ducking a mandatory because his promoter or network can't work out a deal is pretty absurd if you ask me.

 

I'm sorry ... TLDR.

All I'm saying is that I hope GGG/Canelo 3 follows this.

G'day.

 

Your agenda is sad and argument is pathetic.
By your exact logic Manny Pacquiao, Sugar Ray Leonard, Muhammad Ali, Del a Hoya, Julio Cesar Chavez, George Foreman, Bernard Hopkins, Joe Louis and plenty of other greats deserve no credit for being on the right side of bad decisions. If they have earned nothing then taking part in the sport is absolutely pointless.

I'm the sure the WBCJRock title will stay vacant then.

You religiously support a cheating POS that you don't even believe in.

 

It won't be the undisputed fight, Canelo is not really WBC champ any more. Say if GGG won he would only be WBO, WBA and IBF champ, Franchise champ in not transferred.