Hearns KO'd Duran yet Duran is considered greater, Mayweather UD Pac, Pac considered greater

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  1. Jamzy ⭐

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    RENT FREE lmao
     
  2. Jamzy ⭐

    Jamzy ⭐ Active Member Full Member

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    Trying to deflect your sorrows with emoji's and little animation clips, you are sad.
     
  3. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In this case I think Manny is greater. Floyd beat him, but Manny showed more diverse skills over many years and weights and fighting them all. Floyd did not have that type of career. I don't think it is close, and I do not think one fight takes away or puts Floyd on top. No way. And he fought Manny too late. He waited to fight him. Manny had a real legendary career with superfights and weights. Duran and Hearns did also. Floyd sort of avoided the guys who would give him the losses. He constructed a nice record. Manny Duran and Hearns have more losses but I don't think people see that as a big deal. They fought everyone and they have those iconric fights. Floyd has no losses and it great for what Floyd wants to brag about, but we know he handpicked and avoided many. He knew who to fight and when. That takes skill also to know when to fight someone.
     
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  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    My top 30 (although it is in need of a change)
    Pacquiao is at 31
     
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  5. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Mayweather has Pacquiao and Canelo. Arguably the two best wins between them! Haha.
     
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  6. tinman

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    Neither of them in their prime. We had a poll a few years back on what was Mayweathers best win. And it was voted Diego Corrales. And for Pac it was voted Barrera.

    Then there was a poll to see what was the better win. It was one of the widest polls I've ever seen on this site. Like 90 percent of the votes said Barrera was a better win.
     
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  7. Kahuna

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    Not sure many people considier Pac greater than Mayweather outside of white America and the Phillipines.
     
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  8. bailey

    bailey VIP Member Full Member

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    Surprised you have Ali above Floyd. Each to their own
     
  9. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Whys that? I think Ali's résumé is leagues ahead of Floyds
     
  10. bailey

    bailey VIP Member Full Member

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    As said each to their own and im not knocking your opinion in any way.
    I think Floyds resume is far greater and he also came up through the weights (I know a HW cant do that).
    I have never been sold too much on the Ali era in considering it being this great era. Yes great evenly matched fights. For example, If there is a dominant champion, everyone then thinks the era is weak, but if there is not a dominant champion and several fighters who can each beat the other on a given day, people then start seeming to think its due to a strong era.
    For example, Foreman beats Fraser who beat Ali who beats Foreman and there you have 3 fighters.
    If say L Lewis (I know different era and different size to that era but im just giving a name as an example) were around and dominated and beat all 3 convincingly. I expect many would say it was a nothing era and you get one HOFer instead of 3. If that makes any sense
    Each one is dependant on the other to a degree to build and hype the others resume.
    I think Floyd beating fighters like Corrales, Hernandez, Manfredy at SMW was very impressive and it seems forgotten to many just how good Floyd was at SFW before then going up to LW and beating the top LW
     
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  11. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I was never sold on the naturally smaller thing.

    Was Floyd a bit rangier? Sure.

    But their career weights were always similar, equal to their ages. They spent the last decade of their careers fighting at the same weight.

    Floyd aged 19-24 fights at 130
    25-26, fights at 135
    27-28, fights at 140.
    28-40, fights at 147, with a few big fights at 154 where he never gets on the scale higher than 151.

    Pacquiao aged 15, fights at 108
    Aged 16-20, fights at 112.
    Aged 21-23, fights at 122
    Aged 24-25, fights at 126
    Aged 27-29, fights at 130
    Aged 29, fights at 135
    Aged 29-40, fights at 147, with a 140 fight and a 151 fight aswell, never gets on the scale higher than 147.

    Floyd is naturally a slightly bigger man, but not to the point where it should be an issue.

    Mayweather is probably the smallest welterweight Manny fought other than a suspiciously muscular Marquez.
     
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  12. christpuncher

    christpuncher Active Member banned Full Member

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    mayhugger isn't in the top 100 come on
     
  13. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    You can't name 100 boxers better than PBF you ****ing troll alt.
     
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  14. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Who did PBF avoid name these so called fighters? Pac avoided PBF because of testing I have posted the video of Pac's own trainer saying it yet you refuse to accept it and form your own opinion leaving that out saying it was PBF's fault. It's crazy. Pac also fought alot of guys at catch weights not at their best as well and had losses but you seem to overlook those to suit your agenda.

    My question to you is if Pac had PBF's career and resume and his same 50-0-0 record and beat PBF H2H easily and PBF had Pac's career and resume and same 62-7-2 record and lost to Pac easily there is no way in hell you would say PBF is greater than Pac no ****ing way.:deal: You like Pac so you give him the benefit of the doubt.
     
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  15. tinman

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    Pacquiao at 16 fought at 106 pounds with weight in his pockets because he was so small they wouldn't sanction his fights. Pacquiao never had to move up because he was struggling to make weight besides his time 112. He went up in weight each to time to chase ATG's. Seriously that's why he moved up in weight to fight ATG's. That takes balls.
     
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