Who was better: Cassius Clay (Liston 1) or Muhammad Ali (Foreman) ?

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Better fighter: Cassius Clay (Liston 1) or Muhammad Ali (Foreman) ?

  1. Cassius Clay

  2. Muhammad Ali

  3. About the same.

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  1. GOAT Primo Carnera

    GOAT Primo Carnera Member of the PC Fan Club Full Member

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    That one just crossed my mind.

    - Cassius Clay, 22, 210 1/2 beating Liston

    - Muhammad Ali, 32, 216 1/2 beating Foreman
     
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  2. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    Clay was faster and had better conditioning

    Muhammad had a slight edge in ring IQ.

    I'd give it to Clay
     
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  3. GOAT Primo Carnera

    GOAT Primo Carnera Member of the PC Fan Club Full Member

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    I remember an interview Ali explaining why the young Clay (in his eyes) was not able to beat Foreman. Of course Ali always boosted himself on such occasions, but he sounded more rational this time.
     
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  4. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    64 Ali was better seeing as he could still dance and didn't need to resort to the rope-a-dope.
     
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  5. christpuncher

    christpuncher Active Member banned Full Member

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    Cassius Clay. Always remember my grandad who boxed in the Navy in the 60's once said young Ali/Cassius Clay was the best boxer he'd ever seen and was a different fighter completely to later Ali.
     
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  6. Fergy

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    Clay .
    He'd still beat Foreman to but not so much with the rope a dope .He wouldn't have to imo .
     
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  7. KidGalahad

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    best was the muhammad ali, who beat williams and terell.

    cassius clay comes in 2nd.
    70s ali from the foreman fight 3rd.
     
    KidGalahad, Aug 14, 2019
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  8. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It should be obvious, Cassius Clay
     
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  9. swagdelfadeel

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    This content is protected
    this is it. Skip to 8:35.
     
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