Joe Frazier vs Sugar God Valuev?

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  1. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Real question is how does Valuev hit Frazier? He has to punch down eliminating effectiveness and muffling power. Frazier would be operating at Valuev thigh level and would look in warp speed vs the walking statue. Joe won’t miss with his hook. Look at Frazier’s bout with Chuvalo to envision this hypothetical bout except George was five times quicker than Valuev.
     
  2. El Hans

    El Hans Member banned Full Member

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    Mercy and a poor division are the answers.
     
  3. El Hans

    El Hans Member banned Full Member

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    If you think he was slow it seems you haven't seen his roaring prime Sugar Valuev could string together ten punch combo's on the go and knock anyone out and name the round IF his mood was bad its not unheard of for opponent's to die in the ring.

    In the later stages of his career he was just going through the motions he was no longer the blaze that burnt up the division and left it in ashes.

    Educate yourself on Valuev or for the sake of Saint Primo go back to general you casual.
     
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  4. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Obviously Frazier, who would be a cruiserweight by today's standards, is too small for the modern day super heavyweight Valuev. When has Frazier ever fought a 7 foot tall 320 pound giant????
     
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  5. El Hans

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    Suga smokes smoke with a eight punch flurry without needing his famous lateral movement in whatever round he wants Joe fought 230 pound stick thin foreman and got bounced God is as you say 320 pounds! he only hung tough with a three year retired feather fisted stick thin 210 pound Ali ONCE apart from that nothing to write home about Ali is another Cruiser who Suga would feast on.

    Suga daddy Valuev brings it all
    Speed, power and chin the holy trinity people may talk about his heart (lack of challenge) and workrate (Mercy)
    But us educated folk see the magic in the Suga man.
     
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  6. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Valuev was slow and predictable.
     
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  7. El Hans

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    Saint Primo!
    Baseless claim.
     
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  8. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Continental drift is also slow and predictable. It’s also unstoppable and inevitable....much like Sugar Nikolai himself.
     
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  9. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All the amateurs gravitate to size. Valuev was a nothing. A freak who is noted for nothing aside from being...a freak. Slow, amateurish, wide open target. An ATG that can punch sends him to la la land very quickly. They could not miss if they tried.
     
  10. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    We have another resident idiot in El. We needed another?
     
  11. El Hans

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    Its Hans and yes Mark Ant is stale of late.