Wilder vs. Ortiz II - IS ON! - Set for Nov. 23rd in Las Vegas

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  1. notjustacasual

    notjustacasual Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Yes!

    Great fight, the first was exciting action, you have two offensive juggernauts who the rest of the division avoids.

    You can't ask for much more.
     
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  2. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nah Ortiz is the son of Methuselah,just keeps going past his 800th birthday
     
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  3. notjustacasual

    notjustacasual Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    They think Wilder should be taking on young killers like Tom Schwartz and Otto Wallin
     
  4. Heisenberg

    Heisenberg Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Brazealle and Ortiz are certainly better fighters than Schwartz and Wallin.. WBC Champ 2 lineal Champ 0
     
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  5. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I'm your huckleberry, that's just mah game Full Member

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    I hope Ortiz is getting paid at least $7 million for this, considering all his bitching and moaning about being lowballed.
     
  6. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    How Ortiz' body is still going I have no idea. His blood must have been replaced by dust by this stage... how does he still have energy to train at his age? Jeez
     
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  7. ipitythefool

    ipitythefool Prediction ? Pain Full Member

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    The first fight was good yes. But Ortiz has slowed massively since then - which happens when you get to your fifties. He's outside the top 10 now in my view and should be easy for Beoncay.
     
  8. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    That isn't true. I'm not sure if he's lost a round since the Wilder fight and Ortiz never looked great against negative fighters.
     
  9. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    You sound like a hater. Like it or not, Ortiz and fury are top opponents and Wilder is willing to fight both of them again both tested him thoroughly. That's what a champion does. Who exactly does he need to fight before you give him credit ? Do you pick apart every heavyweights resume ? Because Furys is nothing special. Nor is wlad or vitalis who everyone loves around here. Joahuas honestly doesn't look great either when you take a close look. Povetkin Parker and white are all overrated at this point, no better than Ortiz
     
  10. BoJangles

    BoJangles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hope Kong has been playing Possum like Kownacki vs Arreola... pretend you're struggling with your opponent and pack on some extra pounds so Beyoncé (who's watching your fight) will be lured into what he thinks will be a Gravy Train Easy Fight! Meanwhile you're training like a Mad-Dog and Smashing Sparring Partners wearing Beyoncé Masks!!
     
  11. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ruiz already destroyed AJ so all of the above is possible
     
  12. Vykus

    Vykus ɹoolɟ ǝɥʇ ɯoɹɟ ʍǝᴉʌ ǝɥʇ Full Member

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    Well first off, I love it how Wilder fans live in a deluded alternate reality, it truly is hilarious and proves my point every time. Klitschko's beat and dominated every heavyweight contender /champion for over a decade. Never ducked anyone, fought em all, true champions. When Wilder was offered the fight with Klitchsko, he ran for the hills. This isn't me saying that, this is the words of his own manager.

    Povetkin was an Olympic gold medalist and world champion - Ortiz couldn't make the Olympics or win a title. He beat world champions Byrd, Chagaev, Huck and Rahman among others, and fought both Olympic gold medalists Joshua and Klitschko. Please enlighten me how beating feather fisted fringe contender Jennings puts Ortiz anywhere near Povetkin?

    Joseph Parker has already fought world champions Joshua and Ruiz, as well WBC #1 contender for 600 days Whyte, and Hughie Fury. He's only 27 years old. How is 40-year-old Ortiz who beat a fringe contender once upon a time on level ground with Parker?

    Whytes last 3 opponents - undefeated Olympian Rivas for WBC interim title, Chisora for WBC Silver title, one of the toughest perennial contenders of his time, and Parker for WBC Silver title, a former world champion. But oh yeah, Ortiz fought a fringe contender once upon a time, he's top of the crop for Wilder lol. I don't know whose more out of their depth mate, you or Ortiz.
     
  13. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Lol nice breakdown but povetkin was shot long before Joshua faced him and he's always been over rated. He's good because he beat a washed up Rahman and Huck a decade ago ? Whyte is legit because he beat chisora and Rivas while juicing? Parker good because he lost to whyte Joshua but beat hughie fury? You jump through hoops to make everyone look legit except Wilder. Everything that's wrong with modern boxing fans was just optimised by your post
     
  14. Vykus

    Vykus ɹoolɟ ǝɥʇ ɯoɹɟ ʍǝᴉʌ ǝɥʇ Full Member

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    Hahaha please, tell us some more.