Could Leon Spinks have been an ATG Cruiserweight

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  1. steve1990

    steve1990 Active Member Full Member

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    Let's say if Leon drops down to cruiserweight after losing to Ali and has a Holyfield like mentality. Does he become ATG great at cruiser?
     
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  2. El Hans

    El Hans Member banned Full Member

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    He has the tools yes.
     
  3. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No.

    He is a rise to the occasion type champion. He is not the type to string together a bunch of title defenses. He'd be hard pressed to make say 4 defenses before the wheels would come off.
     
  4. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yes he had the ability.
     
  5. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, Leon didn't have what it takes , Leon was at the right place and time when Ali got old, nothing more
     
  6. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, he certainly had the opportunities to become an all-time great cruiserweight. He fought many of the same champs Holyfield fought at cruiserweight, but Leon lost badly.

    So, you have to say no.

    He fought great that night against Ali. But Leon didn't have the discipline to be an all-time great pro.

    The stories about him before the Qawi fight are like the most drugged out, partying rock star before he walks up to the mic stand and takes a nosedive off the stage. Leon's pro career was one brilliant night punctuated by a years long car crash.
     
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  7. SHADAPBLAD

    SHADAPBLAD Viscous Knockouts Full Member

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    No. Michael could have, in my opinion.
     
  8. Momus

    Momus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There are only two ATG cruiserweights - Holyfield and Usyk. Even at his best, Leon wasn't in the same class.

    A fired up, clean motivated Leon could certainly have won a cruiserweight title at some point and had a nice reign; he was better than a lot of guys who made their mark at cruiser. He was never going to clean out the division though in the way that Holyfield and Usyk did.
     
  9. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Leon was a good product but never was disciplined and that definitely hurt him. He could have competed as Cruiserweight but remember Mike Tyson fought in the 200 - weight division in the amateurs - I don’t think Leon would be a star in any division just somewhat competitive - remember KO by Coetzee in 1 Holmes in 2 etc. - Michael Spinks May have been a ATG cruiserweight but today the top 3 - 4 in that division is insane
     
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  10. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, if given the right discipline and trainer.
     
  11. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No. His defense was not good enough. I think 1980 Carlos Deleon would have beaten even a focused Leon.
     
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  12. Vince Voltage

    Vince Voltage Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I like Leon but he was a self-destructive alcoholic and addict. He was never going to stay disciplined enough to have any kind of serious run.
     
  13. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    No.

    Leon like to party way too much. He had talent but not the disipline to be an ATG
     
  14. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    There's no such thing as an atg cruiserweight
     
  15. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As long as you don’t put him in the ring with Dwight Muhammed Qawi ...sheeeesh