Foreman and Jack Johnson used the same defense

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    A young Foreman and Johnson both posted with both of their hands to block straight punches and keep a fight at long range, how did Foreman`s defense compare to Johnson`s and how would this have effected a fantasy H2H between the two greats?
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  2. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I see no similarities myself.
     
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  3. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They are not comparable. Johnson was a defensive genius, a boxer. Foreman was a puncher who did not emphasize defense.
     
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  4. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    1:00-1:10 on the vid I pasted above.
     
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  5. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    But he was great at posting with his arms keeping shorter armed fighters on the outside.
     
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    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Johnson was known for:

    Boxing
    Feinting
    Blocking
    Wonderful left jab
    Impenetrable defense

    Foreman known for:

    Aggressive puncher
    Tremendous power
    Attack and destroy
    Powerful jab

    Diametrically opposite fighters
     
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  7. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Oh please.

    I know you old time fanboys would just love for a modern giant like Foreman to share boxing traits with someone from that era, but no.
     
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  8. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Actually there are similarities. Foreman and Johnson were much different fighters but they both liked manipulating opponents gloves. The thread is about this particular technique, not about overall similarity.

    Of course Johnson was better defensively than Foreman, it's not debatable.
     
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  9. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    It`s on the vid, surely you`ve seen Johnson posting with his arms, he did it constantly.
     
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  10. mark ant

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  11. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    They outstretch their arms to control their opponents gloves.
     
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  12. HOUDINI

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    You continue to show complete ignorance of the sport.
     
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  13. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    They didn't use the same defense. They just had similar facets.

    Sticking the arms out is a basic Thai guard also, and was employed by Mexican maestro Miguel Canto exceptionally. These are all fighters of different styles.
     
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  14. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Explain.
     
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  15. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Similar effective facets, Foreman simply shoved the weaker Frazier each time he got inside.
     
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