Gennady Golovkin vs Sergiy Derevyanchenko is set for October 5th

Is Javier Capetillo here?

Because he was at the Margarito/Mosley CSAC hearing regarding the fight. You know, the one where he admitted to using illegal wraps on his fighter, Antonio Margarito, before the fight began.

 

This has to be a bigger conspiracy theory than the Illuminati! Why isnt this on the news!!

 

Ask CJ. Apparently CJ was at the hearing and even he (sometimes) admits what Capetillo had stated on the issue despite how much it must really chap him to do so. Conveniently ignore it? Oh. Do you not know CJ?!

 

Guess what genius, Golovkin is indeed older than Alvarez, by 8 years actually. "Marinating" that fight was only beneficial to the Mexican. As for Derevyanchenko, he is younger than GGG. In that sense it even became more difficult for GGG to beat the Ukrainian.

 

Exactly. Somebody somewhere earlier said that GGG waited for SD to get older and slower and I could only snort into my coffee in amusement.

 

Sorry there, genius, that you can not read between the lines.

 

Perhaps it was in jest?

A lot of "Golovkin haters" as you may like to say have heard that rationale quite a bit when discussing fighters/fights in the past. You still see it in every resume comparison thread.

In this context, it would be "irony" to state such a thing. Unless you are truly dealing with an idiot, I don't know.

 

You implied that I said the same thing when I accused Alvarez of ducking. Except it was not the same situation, because Golovkin became older, so it became easier for Alvarez to fight him. Golovkin is also older than Derevyanchenko, so GGG didn't win anything from delaying the fight in that sense.

 

Yes it was indeed a smart business reason for Alvarez to avoid a PPV fight against Golovkin to fight a noname paper champion, Liam Smith on non PPV! But I know, Golovkin had to make a name for himself before the fight... It's not like he didn't have a PPV fight before, and wasn't popularized by HBO since 2012. Cut the crap fanboy, it was a smart decision only because Golovkin became weaker by aging, no other reason.

As for GGG, it was a smart decision, because you don't fight Derevyanchenko as a replacement opponent on a short notice, he is no pushover. He is a tough fight for anyone in the division.

Derevyanchenko looked the same as ever against Jacobs, it's not like he slowed down, he just fought a good opponent and lost a close fight. Actually Golovkin became more vulnerable by delaying the fight, because GGG turned 37 this year which is old for a middleweight boxer. Once again you have no argument.

Of course you said the same thing, because both of you nuthuggers are like the borgs in Star Trek, you have zero original thought, you can only parrot what Oscar said. First of all you came to this thread and started insulting GGG fans by calling them GGGirls. I didn't even mention Canelo fans before, only GGG haters. But you took offence by that, because the suit fitted you; you are a hater.

 

A clinic is where one guy beats the other by complete shutout , never losing a round in the process. Close fights can never be considered clinics.

A clinic is when Mayweather fought Canelo. Comparing Golovkin's performance in the second fight to Mayweathers is so laughable and embarrassing it makes me believe you're an anti-GGG plant designed to make his fanbase look bad.

 

Winning every single round isn't a prerequisite for a fight being a clinic. It's really about one fighter learning something about how to fight from another fighter during a match, like when a fighter tries to land his offense, but the other guy negates it in a way that is a learning experience.

And for your information Canelo won more rounds vs Mayweather than almost all of his opponents. Canelo put on a feinting clinic vs Mayweather made him flinch about 35 times throughout the fight. That's something that a master does to a novice, it was a role reversal for Floyd being the student instead of the teacher. Mayweather learned more in that fight than in practically any one of his other fights. He was tested in a way that no one else was able to test him. That kind of a chess match isn't a clinic.

Canelo put on more of a clinic in his first fight with GGG than Mayweather put on him. Now granted Mayweather made some good adjustments vs Canelo in the middle rounds and certainly did some "schooling" at times. When you have to make the kind of adjustments Floyd made you're not putting on a clinic, you are learning how to best combat your opponent as you are fighting him. Floyd needed his daddy's help in the corner to eek out one vs Canelo. Remember "bop bop bing" from Floyd Sr in the corner. If you're putting on a clinic you don't need daddy telling you to bop bop bing your opponent in the corner. Floyd Sr was telling Floyd that because what he was doing wasn't working too well, it was too close for Floyd Sr's liking. Floyd also got Canelo in a headlock and cranked Canelo's neck in the 4th round. That was Floyd getting frustrated, you don't crank someone's neck in a headlock when you are putting on a clinic. You look at what Mikey Garcia did to Broner that was a freakin clinic. He didn't have to make no adjustments he was just schooling Broner from bell to bell, blocking nearly everything Broner threw at time and came back with more. Vs Floyd Canelo actually was landing body shots with regularity, mostly jabs to the body and landed some clean hooks upstairs. You don't get hit with clean hooks across the face when you are putting on a clinic.

If you are putting on a clinic you don't need to make many adjustments because everything you are doing from round 1 to round 12 is done easily and naturally. You don't put on a clinic when you are in a close fight as Floyd was vs Canelo when you are being feinted out of your mind flinching like a novice 35 times throughout the fight, and then have to reach deep down into your bag of tricks and make adjustments just to eek out of a decision.

Canelo put on a clinic vs GGG in the first fight because of how easy he made it look to negate GGG's offense and how he used his aggression against him making him look silly at times, catching him with hard counter shots like uppercuts off the ropes and stuff like that. Floyd did make Canelo miss at times too but it wasn't as clinical, he didn't make it look as easy. Floyd had to work real hard in there. On the other hand Canelo made making GGG look silly look easy. Canelo GGG 1 was very close but Canelo still put on a clinic. He showcased skills that nobody even thought he had. Going into that fight people said Canelo had no footwork, he disproved that. Going into the fight people said you couldn't lay on the ropes vs GGG or you'd get knocked out, he disproved that by staying on the ropes in rounds 4 and 5. That's putting on a clinic. It really doesn't have much to do with how many rounds you win or how close a fight is, it's teaching your opponent something about fighting during a fight, generally something your opponent has never seen before.

 

Who is this person ??? I was at that hearing & I did not hear that at all

 

You are so biased for Canelo it's embarrassing. If you didn't post about Canelo would you ever post?

Canelo did not win more rounds vs Mayweather than almost all of his opponents, one could easily score that fight 119-109 and nobody besides you would blink an eye at that score.
Canelo did not put on any sort of clinic vs Mayweather. It is laughable to proclaim such. Are you scoring feints and not punches for this fight?
Canelo did not put on any sort of clinic vs GGG 1, Canelo lost that fight. You argue Floyd didn't (vs Canelo) because he had to make an adjustment but suddenly Canelo does (vs GGG 1) after he drops at least 6 rounds?

 

Way to try and redefine a term.
In boxing clinic means one opponent dominated the other. True, there have been plenty of fights were one wins pretty much all the rounds, but it's a though fight all the way through.
But a clinic is still one guy dominating the other. As Mayweather dominated Alvarez. He was in control from the opening bell and Alvarez barely won a single round.
And at that 35 flinches. That means Floyd reacted to 3 feints a round. Either you know nothing about feinting, or you are making **** up here.

Floyd vs Canelo wasn't a close fight at all. Floyd absolutely negated everything Alvarez tried.

 

Are you a simpleton or do you pretend to be for the sake of trolling? One more ignorant post from you and I won't even bother with you anymore. I'll educate you on the matter since you obviously have no idea what transpired. Have you ever heard of the 15 day deadline the WBC imposed on Canelo??

Statement by Canelo:

"After much consideration, today, I instructed my team at Golden Boy Promotions to continue negotiating a fight with Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin and to finalize a deal as quickly as possible. I also informed the WBC that I will vacate its title. For the entirety of my career, I have taken the fights that no one wanted because I fear no man. Never has that been more true than today. I will fight 'GGG,' and I will beat 'GGG' but I will not be forced into the ring by artificial deadlines. I am hopeful that by putting aside this ticking clock, the two teams can now negotiate this fight, and 'GGG' and I can get in the ring as soon as possible and give the fans the fight they want to see."


Statement by Loeffler:

"From their side, they made it clear when they told me they were going to vacate that it didn't mean Canelo didn't want the fight. They wanted to continue negotiations, but they didn't want the time pressure for the purse bid, which was coming up quickly next week"

"I respect the way they handled it this way as opposed to dragging out the process."

Loeffler said that, as De La Hoya had promised the media after Canelo KO'd Khan, he did call Loeffler the next business day to begin negotiations."He called, and said Canelo wants the fight, and that Canelo was a proud champion and that everyone knows he doesn't shy away from anyone."

You're a ****ing two faced little weasel man. lol Zero dignity.

We called your double standards and you got butthurt LOL

You can say or call me whatever you want, I still use facts in my arguments, while your arguments are half truths, misinformation, fake news, and fueled by pure emotion.

I've done you a favor and educated you on why Canelo vacated, and it has nothing to do with your made up narrative.

Funny how you call me a parrot, when I'm using facts and you're the one parroting a false narrative.

As I said, you're a little spineless weasel.