Deontay Wilder is already in the HOF, what else does he need to do for ATG status?

Fury wasn't out, watch it again and tell me a man that keeps his leg bent upright at the knee and turns his hand and then gets up and is ok on his feet and dominant the rest of the round was actions of a man knocked out.

You know as well as I do he wasn't out, no way in a million years, you don't get up like that and be ok instantly if you was out seconds before.

 

I don't need to tell you

Fury himself admitted he was knocked out.

Lets here what he said

"I was sound asleep on the floor. All of a sudden, I opened my eyes and I jumped up.''

Do you know what sound asleep means?

 

Fury talks a lot of ****...

 

It is funny how people said that Wilder will never fight Ortiz and if he will they give him credit. And after the fight they just said that Ortiz is old and never was so good.

 

LOL, some of the threads on this forum make this place almost unrecognizable, this is another. Wilder, HOF, WOW.

 

Trust me they will lol.

 

He worked his way to number one mandatory position.

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Says he ain't ready, after 33 fights. That's a clear duck. He didn't want Deontay getting stretched/QUOTE]

You said Wilder ducked Klitschko. You understand in order to duck a fighter they must be offered to fight. A scenario where a promoter is asked a question on a hypothetical match where there has not been any call outs or negotiation cannot be considered a duck unless you're a desperate moron looking to clutch on straws.

I'm sure Wilder doesn't need financial advise from a pleb

Who is in a better position today in terms of reputation, Joshua or Wilder?

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You seriously posting a video of Eddie Hearn the renowned proven liar to support your argument? You cannot be serious. You can't debunk the 50 million offer because it was real, as confirmed by Barry Hearn, Frank Warren, Tyson Fury and Joshua himself.

You live in an alternative reality where you firmly believe in false narratives

And I ****ing hate Arum

Do you realise how many fighters have left Bob Arum because his mistreatment and messing fighters around? Bob Arum stable and history can not compare to the world class elite level fighters and fights staged under boy Al Haymon and Shelly Finkel. You would have to be stupid to think so

No Ortiz was mandated to fight Joshua, and was even promised a fight yet Hearn put bodygaurds in his path to protect him from AJ

AJ himself even wrote a letter witht he help of his legal team to have Ortiz removed as mandatory. That's how much he feared Ortiz at the time.

That's your opinion however the consensus at the time was that he was going to knock out Wilder

He's slow and flat footed. He's got good fundimentals but he's slow and flat footed.

He's made for Wilder...

Of course they would have hyped him up the same way. Is Dillian Whyte Cuban? Because he's been hyped to hell on the basis of fighting the likes of Dave Allen Lucas Brown and derek chisora

Nah mate I do you just don't see it.
I've constantly said Fury's little bum of the month is bull****.

I've seen your ridiculous posts on here they are all rallying for Fury.

Again another fantastical narrative. You just make it up as you go along, mixing falsehood with a bit of truth.

Peter Fury was not MIA at the time. One of Fury's other uncles had died and that was too much for him to fight apparently. Peter Fury was available for the fight. I have no idea where you get the idea that Peter fury was not going to be available

What's that got to do with Fury turning down a fight before he got exposed?

You're embarrassing yourself with your lack of informative knowledge

How can have ducked Joshua when he agree terms to fight him only for Hearn to pull out of the agreement and turn down 50 million?

Your stupidity knows no bounds. How can you duck someone who gets banned after failing a drug test which prevents them from fighting? Did Joshua duck Miller going by your logic?

And again the klitschko situation is moronic as there is no evidence of ducking.

I can show you a video of Wilder stating that he was more than willing to fight Klistchko but I wouldn't be so foolish to suggest that Wlad ducked Wilder since no formal negoitations had taken place and clearly Finkel did not wish for them to fight when he was managing them both.

You're in the minority that believe Wilder ducked Joshua. That's the problem with you casuals in the uk, proud of your ignorance that you never even admit when you're wrong even when glaring evidence shows you to be incorrect.

 

So Tyson Fury himself along with Jack Reiss, Wilder and Paris Fury who were all there in witnessing the action, were all telling fibs when they said he was out cold?

But you the pleb know Tyson was just playing dead for the giggles

 

Already huh? I like Wilder but all he has done so far is knockout a bunch of bums... for the most part. He has looked good knocking out who he has knocked out but how many quality opponents has he really beat? He beat Ortiz but it was far from easy, that's why they are fighting again. Ortiz had him in serious trouble before being stopped in the 10th round. He got a draw vs. Fury but I thought Fury won the fight, 115-111. Who else? Molina, Breazele, Stiverne? Stiverne did manage to go the distance but was stopped in their rematch, KO1. Stiverne has pretty much let himself go since their first fight. Hall of Fame? Why? Wilder is 41-0-1 (40) overall and 9-0-1 (8) in WBC HW world title fights but he needs some more top names on his resume. Ruiz and Fury have more world recognition as Heavyweight World Champ.

 

Dude can crack though.

 

I think it takes 5 things and 4 more fights
1. Beat Ortiz
2. Remove any doubt by KOing Fury,
3 & 4. After that, Ruiz AND Joshua
5. and at some point Unify
That will clean out the division of any contenders/pretenders and unify the title, no one can ask for more.
That is all there is to do but until he does it there will be legitimate questions and that means no ATG...

 

If Wilder can beat All AJ/Fury/Whyte/Ruiz & so on then ok for HOF,till then no way.

 

Indeed I do, And i know that wasn't the actions of someone being out cold, "asleep" no matter what fury said.
He wasn't.....out, out....

 

Hall Of Frauds. Let's be real. Wilder refuses to fight anyone in the Matchroom or associated with the Matchroom stable, cause Haymon says so. Given that includes most of the worlds best heavyweight fighters (Joshua, Whyte, Miller, Parker, Usyk, Povetkin, Hunter, Hygovic, H. Fury etc..) you can rest assure Wilder is going to do what he has always done, and retire on a feast of old men and punching bags.