Unbelievable that you consider Frank didn’t do wrong by Burns and Calzaghe. Guiding a fighter well doesn’t give him the right to do as he pleases with their contracts.The Calzaghe court case was damning of Warren.
Dragonpinch has no bad word to say on Warrens buisness dealings? Mental,his treatment of creditors and fighters at times has been nothing short of horrific.
He waited about 8 months to get paid for the burns fight he told warren that he needs he’s money I can tell u so much more but I can’t I’m afraid
You have no issue with someone declaring bankruptcy to avoid paying a fighter who has put their life on the line what they are owed? By this point I can't remember all the different company names fish eyes has used to promote over the last decade.
Who knows- maybe, maybe not, time will tell. Warrington is with Frank now after leaving Hearn, so anything can happen. Frampton went with Frank, when he had the clear choice between him and Eddie..same with Fury.
I think you'd have to say most of the direction has been towards Hearn since he really came into the sport. Frank had a stable including Bellew, Brook, Khan, Cleverly, Burns, Mitchell, Saunders, DeGale, Gavin, Hughie, Smith and Groves at one point. They all left, and most of them ended up fighting for Hearn at one point or another. Warrington and Frampton show it's not all one way traffic. But it's clear that there's been a tendency to move away from Warren for some time now.
Some real strange examples there mate. I get that you said there not all direct moves, but I don’t think you can list them as clear examples of anything. Khan = left to go to the states for major money with HBO/Goldenboy. Brook= Warren let go without a fight as his father was a nightmare to deal with. Degale = Left to go with Hennessy/channel 5 not to Hearn. Groves = Never really a Warren fighter as he was under Haymaker. Also never really a Hearn fighter as he was under Sauerland and Groves couldn’t stand Eddie anyway. Hughie = Very strange, loose agreement with Hennessy bouncing around all over the place on YouTube/ channel 5 and ITV I think I’ve no issues with your examples about Bellew, Gavin and Liam Smith and Cleverley.
I get that he fought on Warren shows, but he was managed by Hayemaker / Booth who I believe were picking the opponents. If that is not correct then fair enough- add Groves to the list.
You don’t want to believe it more likely. I bet Edwardo can’t wait for the day that Brook calls it a day/ leaves - he must be a complete pain in the arse as Eddie has started to let slip a bit recently about his frustrations with him.
What’s your view on Warren bankrupting companies to avoid paying money owed? And what’s your view on him not paying purses to fighters?
I just don't think you've read my post. It's not that they all left to go directly to Hearn immediately, but they all left Warren and most of them, at some point, fought for Hearn. And that's without mentioning the big domestic names who've never been with Warren (Joshua, Whyte, Froch) or the names who historically ended up in court with him or left and became bigger. (Hatton, Calzaghe.) Who's the biggest name who Warren has promoted who either didn't end up suing him or leaving him? There has been a demonstrable change in the domestic scene over the last decade or so and it's clearly away from Frank Warren.
