Tyson Fury becoming the most avoided fighter no wants to fight a fully match fit Fury

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  1. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 The Empire Struck Back Full Member

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    So an offer that would be nowhere near matching that one would be a futile one that Team Fury would of known had no chance of being accepted and would then be a marketing smokescreen to justify fighting someone like Wallin.

    Unless you think Fury and his team are stupid or they made an offer near what the IBF Mando shot would pay then you shouldn't be going around here saying 'Pulev ducked Fury' which is what you're saying.
     
  2. pow

    pow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The offer would have been significantly more than $1million Schwarz earned fighting Fury. I do believe I already mentioned this but you obviously failed to digest it. This would take into account Bulgarian TV rights and PPV buys. Pulev's team obviously know they will loose the fight and the money was going to be less than they could accumulate long term taking the IBF route. What would you do? This is basic economics here. The money was good but they know they can't beat Fury and for that reason turned down the fight.
     
  3. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 The Empire Struck Back Full Member

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    If you're going to be deliberately obtuse then we're done here. I asked you two very simple questions and you refused to answer them. Taking into account all what you've said and I've agreed on, are Fury's team stupid to think they can make the fight without making an absurd offer or were they simply using Pulev's name as a bit of good marketing for the crap fight they ended up making?

    If you can't answer the above then please don't pretend you're not shilling for Fury anymore as you're boring me.
     
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  4. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    I am so glad you know about basic economics, be sure to remember these words when other fighters other than your client Tyson Fury turn down fights and get called duckers.

    Good job
     
  5. Furious

    Furious Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I just hope he's good to his word and fights in the UK in December. Didn't like what he said to Michelle Joy-Phelps where he heavily implied all his fights will be in Las Vegas for the foreseeable without mentioning a UK fight.

    I know he's contradictory, but he needs to realise there's lots of fans that want to see him fight in the UK - as he's already mentioned he will. He can't just say whatever pops into his head.

    I know he won't want to jeopardise the Wilder fight, so sadly any fight in the UK would probably be against another punchbag. So frustrating - 2019 wasted for Fury!

    I'm no Joshua fan - but I'm fully on board with the 'I won't fight any B-Level fighters' mentality.
     
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  6. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    At this stage, I'd love to see him lose due to his poor attitude, I'd love a big loss to give him that much needed attitude adjustment and bring him back down to earth.
     
  7. Furious

    Furious Boxing Addict Full Member

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    For me, I believe he is the best heavyweight out there in terms of ability. He needs to prove it though - he can't keep dining out on the Klitschko win and Wilder draw forever. He's in his prime right now and with the ESPN money behind him I can't imagine they'd struggle to make big fights.

    To their credit - both Joshua and Whyte have good recent resumes. Wilder and Fury lagging behind. As I've said before, you can excuse Seferi and Pianetta to an extent because of the weightloss.. no excuses for Schwartz and Wallin though. I can appreciate he might want an easyish opponent after Wilder and to introduce him to the US market.. but surely they could find someone better than Schwartz. This Wallin fight is a joke.
     
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  8. Pound4PoundGG

    Pound4PoundGG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tyson Fury ducked wilder rematch thats a fact. Im a big Fury fan and i was shocked when he signed to fight Wilder for the first fight, I was even more shocked and impressed by Furys performance in that fight. The problem is after that first fight Fury knows that Wilder has that knockout power and now that Wilder has put more muscle on his power is crazy, if im honest I dont think Fury wants a peice of that any more.
     
  9. Furious

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    Could be totally wrong - but I think in defence of Fury here, he got the ESPN deal before pushing the Wilder fight back. ESPN wanted to grow the fight, so didn't want the rematch immediately. I don't necessarily think it was anyone 'ducking' anyone.
     
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  10. Pound4PoundGG

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    Is this what they call growing the fight?
     
  11. Furious

    Furious Boxing Addict Full Member

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    For me, no. For ESPN - perhaps.

    They seemingly wanted him to have a couple of easy fights in the USA to get him more attention.. feature him on talkshows, Mike Tyson's podcast etc.
     
  12. Pound4PoundGG

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    ESPN must think boxing fans are dumb. I dont think Fury has that sort of a wide fan following as like say a Joshua where fans could easily be conned in to buying rubbish ppv fights, not that joshua does that just using his wide fan base as an example. I think Fury fans are more hardcore fans, and i think this build up or what ever ESPN are calling it to grow the Wilder fight may end up backfiring. Are they trying to grow his american fan base? I just dont get it.
     
  13. Aydamn

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    I agree, I'll excuse those guys even though I think Seferi was no better than fighting a school girl, being 6 foot and nothing special at all for a 6 foot 9 beast.

    But yeah it pisses me off that he calls himself the best, and says no man can beat him and yet finds the most despicable opposition... who would be Fury's Rivas??? For a hard non-title shot bout?
     
  14. Furious

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    I know it would be pretty hard to negotiate - but I'd really like to see him take on Whyte. Whyte is on form, has a great resume and it would be a fantastic British fight. In the UK, we've been a bit starved of good fights this year and it would go some way to making up for that.

    If Fury is as good as I think he is, he should be able to show he's a level above in a fight like this which should give him a very stern test. Sadly, can't see it happening.
     
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  15. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Fury likes to dismiss Whyte as being low threat, another Chisora type he would jab to oblivion, but the reality is, Whyte has some boxing ability on him, always comes fully prepared with a good strategy put together with his team, he is young, fit, strong, and would give Fury one hell of a fight even if he is tailormade for Fury's style.

    Fury doesn't fancy it, and I guarantee Whyte would put up a better job than Chisora vs Fury back in the day.

    Fury won't take a fight like that if a title shot ain't on the line, and that's the difference between the boys and the men.
     
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