Dillian Whyte tests positive for banned substance

Why are you generalising all athletes, that sounds so silly.

Microdosing for shaving milliseconds is a good trade off for sprinters and cyclists... bang for bang...

Microdosing for heavyweight boxers?? What the actual **** will that achieve? You won't see big enough of an enhancement to give you a strength advantage when you are getting hit by shots from a superior boxer... any fighter canlose on any day...

Tiny increase in stamina is not going to help you when your game plan in boxing is crap, boxing doesnt work like sprinting, it was way more multi dimensional... footwork, angles, speed, counters, timing, movement, ring craft, punch resistance, strategy, defending.... microdosing will not help in this situation when there are more things that could go wrong for you out of the factors I listed...

So you increased your speed by 1 per cent? So what? The other guy has better positioning, you still cant catch him... the other guy has better punch resistance, etc etc

 

There is nothing you can say that hasnt already been addressed. Like you say, let's wait for the official hearing, which could be years away for all we know.

You have to atleast admit that some dodgy **** is happening around this and if it was a case of totally innocent then it would have been cleared up by now. They are obviously trying to discredit the UKAD test and thats why there is going to be such a long delay.

 

It is a unique case, dodgy? Not saying it isn't, I'll reserve that till I know more.

I'l give Whyte the benefit of the doubt not because I am a megafan, but because of his actions in antidoping and voluntarily paying out his own pocket, which the lawyer in me says... wait that isn't the actions of a cheater.

How he got whatever it was in his system? I am curious... because UKAD and VADA ain't stupid.

They have done countless tests on Whyte, countless... over years... and you are telling me he timed his cycling so perfectly so as to get it wrong just once??? And playing with fire by paying for extra testing out of competition??? Nahhhhhhh

 

You literally know nothing about PEDs.

So shut up eh?

 

Based on that response, I know more than you.

 

u wot m8?

so they wouldn't benefit from the increased strength, adaptation/benefit to training stimulus and recovery?

peds don't shave off the seconds from sprint training, it's the 3 things I mentioned above. You train like a sprinter and those things will make you a better sprinter, and if you train like a fighter those things will make you a better fighter.

compare overeem during his ubereem form to his current econoreem form (probably still on juice, but less).

 

He has to enroll in VADA for the WBC though right? Failing tests these days is pretty much how you described, a mistake. He isnt the first person to fail whilst enrolled on VADA and he wont be the last.

 

Overeem was not microdosing in his K1 days lmao... he was overdosing...

And now in the UFC, off the juice... the difference is night... and dayy!!!!

The PED's do shave of milliseconds because of the reasons you mentioned, it makes you that much better in training, to shave off milliseoncds on competition day, where you run in a straight line.

For boxing, it isnt a millisecond game, its a 36 minute game, with obstacles in your path like a giant heavyweight who wants to take your head off, who might be faster than you even if you were microdosing, .. might have a longer reach than you to negate any strength you got from your added microdosing...

might be a better capable boxer than you in using angles, footwork and positioning to negate any added speed you got from PEDs....

and thus the reward/return ration is NILL.

NILL.

NILL.

To go through all that effort for NILL. results on fight night that would impact your ability to win a fight, it may be you are the superior athlete on the day by way of speed, strength, stamina as a result of microdosing but you simply got outboxed and outhearted, and it goes to judges... now all tthose months microdosing went down the drain... and now UKAD are asking why you have low doses of such and such... in your system... frequently, in more than one test... and now you are ****ed sideways.

Bottom line? Don't compare boxing to cycling and sprinting where the objective is completely and utterly different with regards microdosing... in a millisecond game it makes sense, and the micodosing documentaries ive seen highlighted this key fact, and if you contacted those researchers by email as asked them if they thinkg microdosing would suit boxing i doubt they would agree... its a different sport.... not one of milliseconds, and no obstacles in your path,.

 

I wish they would ban this guy.

I think he is a teenager the way he spouts nonsense but is so assured.

Mental anybody thinks Whyte is innocent FFS.

 

Why don’t you just tell us. Or why hasn’t Dillian?

 

So give me another example of someone enrolled in VADA for 5 years, and passed the VADA but failed a UKAD.

And does this same person do VADA outside of competion? Like the 365 program? Paying from his own pocket???

I am curious to see if one exists.

 

We can make the ban bet now, or are you afraid of losing to a teenager? If Whyte is not innocent, I'll remove myself from the forum.

If he is innocent, you change your avatar to Whyte, just like mine,.

 

Nah, people just shoot down anything I say, I'd rather it came out of the Horses mouth, then they can take it up with the officials.

 

lol you're deluded. you don't know what micro dosing means. it isn't that you are taking pointless dosages, but that you are taking short acting (mostly natural) substances very frequently so they clear from the blood quickly.

overeem passed the tests for 1-2 fights at the start of his ufc career (like vs brock). he messed up his doses for the fight where he got caught. he probably is micro dosing now though.

 

It's the same thing, microdosing... substance dissipates quiicker... less time in your body... meaning you are reaping less of its benefits... meaning your benefit window is limited, and for all the reasons i mentioned in my other post... it aint worth it for boxer when boxing in the ring... but defo worth it for sprinters, and the results are readily realisable. Running in a straight line.. even having a haircut will help you.