Sonny Liston vs Hasim Rahman

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  1. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Rahman was far from a bum. He was a HW champion. Nuff said.

    He'd KO most guys just not ATGs
     
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  2. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    I'd say Patterson, Williams, Machen, etc were better than Rahman.
     
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  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I wouldn't. Not head to head at least.
     
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  4. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Rachman was a very low talent hwt. King of the walking statues so prevalent the last 15 or so years. He would be an open target for Liston.
     
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  5. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    I'd say they were. (Patterson I'm least confident about.).I think his win over Lewis however puts them over all of them in terms of greatness with the exception of Patterson.
     
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    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Yeah I wouldn't say he was a bum. Bums don't hold a win over Lennox Lewis (even a badly prepared one) and become world heavyweight champion.
     
    swagdelfadeel, Aug 20, 2019
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    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    Short answer: No. Long answer: Nooooooooooooooooo. Gtfo.
     
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  8. GOAT Primo Carnera

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    So do you agree this might lead to a competitive fight?
    Before it gets to Cleveland Williams: Light handed Ali put him away in three, as did 176 Satterfield before Liston.
    Patterson was an exceptional talent, but Rahman and co. were at least one weightclass and power level over Chuvalo, Bonavena and Quarry. I see him at CW these days.
     
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  9. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A motivated Rahman would give almost anyone problems, and he was powerful. The key word is motivated, Rahman lost to John Ruiz, how I still don't know.
     
    GoldenHulk, Aug 21, 2019
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  10. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    1. Ali wasn't light handed
    2. Cleveland Williams was shot (both literally and figuratively speaking)
    3. Satterfield was a murderous puncher
    4. Williams was a late replacement for the Satterfield fight
     
    George Crowcroft, Aug 21, 2019
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  11. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    LOL
     
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    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Their is a difference between being a bum and being given a chance against a man with every conceivable advantage.
    Ali was not light handed by any means especially at that point in time. And this was when Williams was shot. Both figuratively and literally
    That 176 pounder was very possibly one of the hardest hitters of all time.
    No argument there. Except Bonavena who's power I feel is very underrated.
     
    swagdelfadeel, Aug 22, 2019
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    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Whatever you think of his talent I think he deserves more respect .Civilians calling brave men bums sticks in my craw.
     
    Tonto62, Aug 22, 2019
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    Rahman wasn't a bum, he was one of the weaker champions but far from a bum. Not on Liston class but don't diserspect him.
     
    70sFan865, Aug 23, 2019
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  15. GoldenHulk

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    Rahman was one of those heavyweights that should have been better than he was, although being a lineal champion he still deserves a lot of credit. Sort of in that class of guys like Tim Witherspoon, Ray Mercer, Henry Akinwande, Oliver McCall, Larry Donald, Kirk Johnson, all good fighters, but lacking something also.
     
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