Is Andre Michael Ward An ATG...???

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Is Andre Michael Ward An ATG...???

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  1. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Most observers rate Ward as Kov's best 'win' despite the home-cooking that robbed him of the official W.

    And Ward beat both Kessler and Froch.
     
  2. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    I brought out a quarter of my apex self sit in back accept you’re non substantial posts. Privileged yet lacking integrity. Give me material and I’ll acknowledge it, if not play your role as self loathing subjective poster.
     
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  3. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    Weak
     
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    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    I accept the confirmation biased...I don’t expect everyone to see the light.
     
  5. Dario Argento

    Dario Argento The exotic Waitress banned Full Member

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    Check your privilege. This topic has been done to death, Ward was consistently fouling Kovalev, no point in arguing over a dead topic. Well youre insecure, so it helps you sleep at night, insect.

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  6. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Strong counter !









    https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Andre_Ward_vs._Sergey_Kovalev_(1st_meeting)


    61 TOTAL SCORES POLLED FROM MEDIA [1]

    44 Scores for KOVALEV = 72%
    16 Scores for WARD = 26%
    1 Score for a DRAW = 1%

    • Allan Fox (Boxingnews24): 117-110 Kovalev
    • Doug Fischer (Ring Magazine): 117-110 Kovalev
    • Andrew Harrison (Boxing Monthly): 117-111 Kovalev
    • Harold Lederman (HBO): 116-111 Kovalev
    • Michael Montero (Montero On Boxing): 116-111 Kovalev
    • Tim Dahlberg (AP): 116-111 Kovalev
    • Shaun Brown (TalkingBoxing.uk): 115-112 Kovalev
    • Chris Mannix (Yahoo Sports): 115-112 Kovalev
    • Dan Rafael (ESPN): 115-112 Kovalev
    • Cliff Rold (*******): 115-112 Kovalev
    • Lance Pugmire (LA Times): 115-112 Kovalev
    • Victor M Salazar (*******): 115-112 Kovalev
    • Scott Christ (BadLeftHook): 115-112 Kovalev
    • Gareth A Davies (The Telegraph): 115-112 Kovalev
    • Kevin McRae (Bleacher Report): 115-112 Kovalev
    • Steve Zemach (FoxSports640): 115-112 Kovalev
    • Jorge Hernandez (SW Fight): 115-112 Kovalev
    • Tim Starks (Queensberry Rules): 115-112 Kovalev
    • The Guardian Online: 115-112 Kovalev
    • Fraser Coffeen (Bloody Elbow): 115-112 Kovalev
    • Steve Kim (UCN Live): 115-112 Kovalev
    • Bokser.org: 115-112 Kovalev
    • FightersRated: 115-112 Kovalev
    • Heavy Bag Boxing: 115-112 Kovalev
    • Queensberry Rules: 115-112 Kovalev
    • Sam Sheppard (Next Big Pod): 115-112 Kovalev
    • Ron Borges (Boston Herald): 116-114 Kovalev
    • Boxhard Podcast: 115-113 Kovalev
    • Ryan Burton (*******): 115-113 Kovalev
    • Bernardo Osuna (ESPN Deportes): 115-113 Kovalev
    • Andy Paterson (Boxing Asylum): 114-113 Kovalev
    • Daniel Vano (******): 114-113 Kovalev
    • Daniel Attias (AUSboxing): 114-113 Kovalev
    • Beau Denison (The Boxing Truth): 114-113 Kovalev
    • Boxing Monthly Online: 114-113 Kovalev
    • Ben Weismann (BoxingAsylum): 114-113 Kovalev
    • G. Leon (Boxtalk): 114-113 Kovalev
    • Bob Velin (USA Today): 114-113 Kovalev
    • Kieran Mulvaney (HBO): 114-113 Kovalev
    • Eric Raskin (HBO): 114-113 Kovalev
    • Stephen A Smith (ESPN): 114-113 Kovalev
    • John Angus MacDonald (Boxing Monthly): 114-113 Kovalev
    • Alex Morris (Next Big Pod): 114-113 Kovalev
    • Danny Winterbottom (Boxing Monthly): 114-113 Kovalev
    • Tony Bellew (Sky Sports): 114-114 DRAW
    • *****: 114-113 Ward
    • Kevin Iole (Yahoo Sports): 114-113 Ward
    • Wolfgang Schiffbauer (German Freelancer): 114-113 Ward
    • Ramon Aranda (3MoreRounds): 114-113 Ward
    • Brian Campbell (ESPN): 114-113 Ward
    • Mike Coppinger (USA Today): 114-113 Ward
    • New York Post Online: 114-113 Ward
    • LA Times Online: 114-113 Ward
    • Mark Butcher (Boxing Monthly): 114-113 Ward
    • Tom Gray (Ring Magazine): 116-115 Ward
    • Mark Ortega (Freelance): 115-112 Ward
    • Danny Richardson (Script Media): 115-112 Ward
    • Adam Abramowitz (Saturday Night Boxing): 115-112 Ward
    • Paul Smith Jnr (Sky Sports): 116-113 Ward
    • Tom Craze (BadLeftHook): 116-111 Ward
    • Ryan O'Hara (BTG): 114-113 Ward
    117-110 KOVALEV: 2
    117-111 KOVALEV: 1
    116-111 KOVALEV: 3
    115-112 KOVALEV: 20
    116-114 KOVALEV: 1
    115-113 KOVALEV: 3
    114-113 KOVALEV: 14
    114-114 DRAW: 1
    114-113 WARD: 9
    116-115 WARD: 1
    115-112 WARD: 3
    116-113 WARD: 1
    116-111 WARD: 1
     
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    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    Delusional at best video posted by a subjective human. Please give me something better.
     
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    Another human.

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    Caper owned again. What else is new?
     
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  11. cuchulain

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    Re: the thread question.

    IMO, No.

    He has a claim to top 3 spot at 168, but with only 3 or 4 good wins at the weight, and all of them having already been defeated.
    And given that 168 is a relatively new division, I don't think he qualifies as an ATG by my definition.

    BTW, neither does Kov.
     
  12. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    Imagine that, be constructive and stop riding others weak foundations.
     
  13. Caper

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    Pathetic, it makes not difference I’ve addressed the fabrication of low blows next....
     
  14. Dario Argento

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    Your opinion lacks objectivity. Totally biased, very subjective human you are.
     
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    By the way, a low blow doesnt have to hit the Nutsack, any area around the privates is sensitive, a prohibited place to aim. Caper is too dumb to realize this.