Is Andre Michael Ward An ATG...???

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Is Andre Michael Ward An ATG...???

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  1. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    Do you really believe I’m dumb, come on. If your goal is to have a constructive conversation please leave your hate aside. I had Kova up at the time of the stoppage.
     
  2. Dario Argento

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    You think shots around the balls are legal, yes you are dumb. It doesnt have to be direct, and the videos explain my points visually so you could understand.
     
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  3. LeftRightDownThePipe

    LeftRightDownThePipe Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    LoooL!! And the pretentious idiot sits there and really believes he’s making valid points with the crap he’s posted.

    Ward NEVER legitimately beat Kovalev fair and square.

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  4. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    I’ve already explained how the shots were not illegal and you lack the ability to address them properly what else can I do? honestly give me something real to reply to.
     
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  5. Dario Argento

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    The shots were slightly above the genital area, thats illegal. You lack the ability to comprehend anything. Only redeeming quality for you here is that at least You had Kovalev ahead on points before fouling started taking its toll.
     
  6. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    Welcome brother I was awaiting your arrival.
     
  7. LeftRightDownThePipe

    LeftRightDownThePipe Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Did you miss the part during the pre fight instructions where the ref says “Right here is low!” pointing to the belt line?? So you can argue all you want where you think it’s illegal or not as far as low blows but the ref gave the instructions. Ward went against them. Numerous times.
     
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  8. Caper

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    My analysis and observations have clearly gone above and beyond your comprehension. I understand it challenges your comfort zone. I guess I’ll address your pm separately out of respect and sympathy for your ignorance.
     
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  9. Dario Argento

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    The videos would have helped you visually see what was wrong with your pathetic opinion.
     
  10. HerolGee

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    perhaps longer because Ward moved to become the man at LHW, true. If Ward had stayed at SMW he'd be just as long the man.Or if Kov had moved to become the man at CW then he's be as short the man.

    So swings n roundabouts.
     
  11. Incinerate

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    So when Tony Weeks did the Maidana/Mayweather 1 fight, and Floyd's fans complained of the fouls; you didn't have a problem with him then. But, some how you had a problem with Weeks in the Ward/Kovalev fight? Gtfooh!
     
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  12. Incinerate

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    Do you accept that Sweatpea beat Chavez? Only a yes or no will do.
     
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  13. Incinerate

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    There is no such thing as the general feeling. You're either the unified champion or the true lineal champion. Kov was neither. Gvozdyk is the true champion right now at 175.
     
  14. bailey

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    https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/boxing/news/kessler-ward-agree-to-rematch_170634.html

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/mar/31/carl-froch-andre-ward-rematch-eddie-hearn-boxing

    He had all of his super 6 fights as the home fighter, all the other original members agreed to travel. He wasn't wanting to. I have seen the video where he mentions he has his opening fights at home
     
  15. bailey

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    Quite simply because Calzaghes SMW resume is far greater with better wins

    You say Eubank was long toothed yet Kessler and Froch were older when Ward fought them

    Below is an old post

    When Ward fought Kessler and Calzaghe fought Eubank

    It was Wards 21st fight, Ward was 25
    It was Calzaghes 23rd fight, Calzaghe was 25

    Ward won at home
    Calzaghe won away

    When Ward beat Kessler, Kessler was 42-1-0
    When Calzaghe beat Eubank, Eubank was 45-2-2

    Kessler was 31
    Eubank was 31

    Kessler was 8-1 in world title fights
    Eubank was 17-2-2 in world title fights

    It was just under 3 years since Kessler beat a world rated opponent
    It was just under 3 years since Eubank beat a world rated opponent

    Kessler had only fought 3 completed rounds in 1 fight in a year before fighting Ward
    Eubank had only fought 7 completed rounds in 2 fights in a year before fighting Calzaghe

    Kesslers only loss was clear
    Eubanks 2 losses - first was very close (debateable) the second was a SD, to the same fighter.

    Kessler was favourite to win.
    100 years of Boxing News claims Calzaghe was underdog, I have read Calzaghe was underdog but some posters claim he was betting favourite, though.
    http://www.talkboxing.co.uk/guides/b..._calzaghe.html
    Notes Eubank was a strong favourite, but dont know where the site got its info.

    Both Ward and Calzaghe had dominant performances with Calzaghe scoring 2 KDs.

    After the loss Kessler beat undefeated WBC champ Froch
    After the loss Eubank fought WBO CW champ Thompson and lost a close decision scoring a KD. Eubank fought a return with the bigger Thompson and lost on injury when ahead. Thompson was a CW and the only fighter to have beaten D Haye at the weight who became the man at the weight.

    I have read how people on ESB say Eubank was shot so -
    How far past prime was Eubank to you then?
    Eubank had lost a close decision to Collins, that many thought he won, had a couple of tune ups and rematched Collins to a SD, had a couple of tune ups and lost clearly to underdog Calzaghe. After that loss Eubank went up to CW and challenged world champ Thompson losing a very close decision and then rematched Thompson losing on injury when ahead. Thats Thompson who years later past his best KOd D Haye.
    Consider Eubank only had 2 losses to one fighter when he fought Calzaghe, the second by SD to a world champ and was 31 then went on to challenge a big CW flooring him etc, how past his prime do YOU think he was?
    Remember Kessler is Wards big win and was the same age as Eubank here and had around the same amount of fights, so is Kessler shot as well, because Kessler has a serious eye problems and was an unwell double vision suffering fighter who has been inactive for a while now due to his injury


    Remember when you make sillycomments about losses was G Johnson considered past his prime when years ago after losing to Hopkins he went 7-9-2 including the Hopkins loss