Vasyl Lomachenko VS Henry Armstrong

I basically agree with Lackbuster, he'd just take far too much punishment on the offensive against Armstrong, and I don't think he could take it. Armstrong would just be too tough, powerfull and strong.

Loma does have a pretty short reach though, shorter than Armstrong, so it's pretty hard to see him pulling off a more defensive plan (which from what I've seen of Loma I'd agree isn't his thing).

He's a good fighter and I'm sure he wouldn't disgrace himself, Armstrong really just seems all wrong for him.

 

I've not given it too much thought because I haven't seen quite enough of Campbell for my own liking. He's a big lad though, I was surprised at how rangy he is next to Loma. I think he's a very good classy fighter though from the limited fights I've seen. I was very pissed and tired watching the Linares fight but recall thinking that he looked nervous and tight early on and took time to settle before eventually relaxing and getting back into it. Figuring Linares out somewhat but running out of rounds. I'd agree that he needs to jump on Loma early and use his size, I don't think he can afford to spot the early rounds. My impression is that he's a decent opponent, but again it's based on limited viewing mate.

 

That's fair. I suppose I think that he'd still take punishment on the retreat, if less so, but that he just wouldn't win any rounds. Where as if he attacked and used his considerable range of punches balanced with a bit of calculated movement, he still isn't going to win but would at least maybe win rounds and have spells of success before succumbing rather than being run out of the ring but possibly going the distance. Fair do's.

 

I'll roll with that brother.

 

Armstrong...181 fights...151 wins...101 KO's...21 losses...9 draws...
Lomachenko...14 fights...13 wins...10 KO's...1 loss...you tell me who you'd choose...

 

Post of the week.

 

Win loss ratio
Armstrong= 7:1
Lomachenko= 13:1

Who would you pick now wise guy???

 

Good point, I don't think a lot of fights or a lot of hard sparring are a good thing. Taking a lot of damage doesn't make a fighter stronger, faster, or better. Of course in Lomachenko's case he had a lot of amateur fights at the top level, but as a pro he hasn't had that many fights and that, to me is in his favor.

 

You'd have to favour Armstrong on pedigree, but, I am also of the opinion that there's nobody at Loma's weight that he'd not at the least be competitive with.

 

I disagree that the numbers of fights are not important. More fights won't make you faster or stronger, but with more experience you have better rythm, you can adjust quicker and better against variety of opponents and you can overcome more obstacles.

Archie Moore didn't beat youngsters in the 1950s because he was stronger or faster than them. It's experience, something you can't be born with.

Of course at some point taken damage and wear makes you more and more vunreable, but we don't talk about Armstrong from his last fight. At his best, he had more title defenses than Loma has fights so far.

 

Not changing my mind,son!!! Give me all the % you've got...doesn't matter....your talking about a man who's considered by most boxing historians to be the #2 fighter of all time!!! I remember in late 1989-early 1990...might have been the "Big Book Of Boxing"...they had an article about how Tyson would do against Johnson...Dempsey...Tunney...Louis...Marciano...Liston...Ali..etc. The writer had Tyson steamrolling everyone. I remember saying..."why don't we wait until he gets into a fight where things don't go his way...then we'll see". Of course Douglas kicks his ass...and it's all downhill from there. The guys has 14 fights...lets wait and see how he does in the long hall before you put him in the HOF. People are in such a hurry to announce that this guy or that guy is already an ATG....some of us need more proof!!!

 

I was just messing with you man.

 

Call me whatever u want but i always had Duran beating Armstrong @ LW because he was so versatile while Armstrong is pure aggression. I can see Loma beating him. It may be the Ukrainian genes in me talking but i can see it happening.

 

Armstrong's overwhelming volume of punches, his power, his harder more relentless training in his day, his overall rougher life he lived at the time, he was the Definition of Full Time year round Professional Fighter, not a guy with 100 people around him, bringing him water, food, tellng, him what to eat when to eat, when to sweat, when to throw a punch in training, hank trained all year long and in a much tougher environment and time and he fought some of the toughest boxers in history, his experience and his overall game would overwhelm any Current boxer near his weight class, these wimps of today would fold like a house of cards against the greats of years past.