Bellew comparing Loma to Jones Jr

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  1. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Find this quite bizarre

    Jones did everything wrong...

    Loma does everything right...

    Jones was all speed, power, reflexes and smart match making

    Loma has the most perfect footwork, timing and technical ability you'll see in modern boxing

    Jones fought nobody near their best other than Griffin (I), Harding and Tarver (I) and look very exposed and ordinary

    Loma has already fought the very best of the best at their best and made them look silly


    Disrespectful to Loma to say Jones Jr was more skilled than him. They are polar opposites in technical skill! Loma as good as they come and Jones as bad as they come (not saying he didn't have incredible speed).
     
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  2. emallini

    emallini Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Your boxing knowledge is trash
     
  3. The Funny Man 7

    The Funny Man 7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Things Loma and RJJ have in common:

    1.) both future 1st ballot hall of famers

    2.) year after year in the lbs. 4 lbs. Top 3

    3.) Both won the Val Barker Trophy (basically: voted best boxer at a given Olympics)

    4.) World title in 3 or more divisions

    5.) both seemed virtually indestructible in their prime

    Seems like a logical comparison to me. Roy wasn't going to make anyone forget Jose Napoles or Finito Lopez when it came to gorgeous, airtight conventional skills. He had technical flaws. But the idea that he had cheatcode level talent that let him make scrambled eggs of 'correct boxing technique' is a lie that apparently can't be killed.

    The smart match-making claim is really a head scratcher too. Other than Dariusz 'Tiger' I'm not sure what major threats he missed. Sven Ottke? Joe Calzaghe, who fought a weight class lower at 168?
     
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  4. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's very informative, and will probably result in a ban

    Do elaborate. How was Roy Jones more technically proficient than Vasyl Lomachenko!? They are polar opposites unless you haven't a clue what you're looking at and are just dazzled by blurring hand speed against subpar opposition
     
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  5. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Reggie Johnson at his best (1992), Lamar Parks (1992-94), Gerald McClellan (1992-94), Frankie Liles (1994-1997), Graciano Rocchigiani (1998). Southpaws were Reggie, Liles and Rocky, and McClellan and Parks had BRICKS in their gloves.

    He wouldn't of had major problems with a weight-drained Eubank or post-McClellan Benn; those versions were both totally off balance when leading off and picked off by a clumsy Collins at will.

    Michalczewski he wouldn't of had much of an issue with.

    Michael Nunn though he'd of struggled with from 95 to 98.

    Even guys like Charles Brewer were far more dangerous than a Bryant Brannon or whatever or an old McCallum (who he lost the first four rounds against) or southpaw Del Valle (who dropped him heavily). Brewer proved that against Graham, Echols (robbed - beat the **** out of him), Ottke (robbed) and Calzaghe (close war).
     
  6. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Lomachenko is VADA tested.....RJJ wouldn’t of passed a VADA test;)
     
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  7. Sonny1

    Sonny1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The thought of listening to that clown Bellew tonight with his Sky cronies is making me think of giving the fight a miss tbh. They literally ruin an evenings boxing.
     
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  8. Potwash

    Potwash The Real Untouchables Full Member

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    Wtf are you drunk/high??
     
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  9. notjustacasual

    notjustacasual Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Jones was unbeatable at his peak, no forget that he was unplayable, his talent level was something else entirely and I don't care what excuses you want to make to downplay it.

    Prime Lomachenko got dropped by Linares.

    Look Lomachenko is very good, very talented, very well schooled but trying to put him above Jones, you know I can smell an agenda a mile away, I know why a lot of people are fans of Lomachenko, let's just say if he was from South Central a lot of you wouldn't be repping him I'll leave it at that.
     
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  10. notjustacasual

    notjustacasual Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I'm not watching it, it's just a bland mismatch and I don't care to as you say spend an evening listening to Bellew and co giving Lomachenko verbal fellatio as he whoops a massively outmatched Brit.

    Life's too short, not wasting it doing that.
     
  11. NasalSpray

    NasalSpray Well-Known Member Full Member

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  12. Potwash

    Potwash The Real Untouchables Full Member

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    Facts. Respect to you for saying how it is bro.
     
  13. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  14. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    What’s the agenda then kid?
     
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  15. Gatekeeper

    Gatekeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Did Roy Jones ever face anyone as good Orlando Salido ??
     
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