Personally I forgive the Salida fight, it was early and personally I think when you've had 7000 amateur fights and been in WSB you are pretty much what you are at that point. But I forgive it. I agree with the rest pretty much though when I see Loma fight I just see a very good fighter who is usually fighting decent fighters and looks good doing it. We are told beating Riga was a great win but flip the size advantage and he has a life and death with Luke Campbell and we are given excuses galore.
How am i? Personally i dont think he was amazing on Sat But life and death fight? Not in a million years
I mean, plenty of folk picked Rigo to win. Even so, hardly anyone is out here calling it a great win. As for your 'life and death' with Campbell comment, log off with that nonsense.
It isn't excuses galore. Sadly a select few in this forum simply refuse to acnowledge that Luke Campbell is an amazing fighter and in any other era he'd be top of the lightweight pile. The reason Loma didn't look immortal is because Luke Campbell had the ability to hang in there and make it competitive, something no other current lightweight could do. He isn't an olympic gold medallist for nothing. The point is...Loma wasn't bad because he is overrated. He was bad because Campbell made it look that way. Luke Campbell is a Neymar in the era of Messi and Ronaldo (Or in this case, just one of those two). He's very very good and very very talented and he'd be a legend in any other era, just...not this one. That's how people should look at it. He will be a world champion eventually and shut the doubters up. And as for Rigo...he is an absolute monster. If he went up to 130 and fought anybody else, he would win. Look at super-feather right now, and tell me who he doesn't beat. He'd take Floyd's puppet Gervontaa to school, and Farmer and the rest are nothing special. Who cares about the size advantage between him and Loma? Loma beat one of the best amateurs of all time, and that in itself makes it a solid win.
Lol @ Loma only becoming an ATG when he beats "Tank" (who is a wight bully and hasn't fought a soul). Loma, like Usyk (and GGG) gets hated by many on this board because of skin colour, fact. Loma is phenomenal. He does things that RJJ could NEVER pull off.
Lomachenko is not "peak" he's been slowing down for a few fights. Similar to RJJ in 2002 right before he moved up to Ruiz. If you watch closely you can see the activity level in the legs drops. Watch the reflexes just get a bit slower. The body rythm is a little slower, they get hit a bit more. I think the comparison is valid. Lomachenko hasn't had the opponents to prove it and he turned pro older but imo as a huge fan of both they are both once in a generation talents
Lomachenko is the best boxer I have ever seen. The fight with Campbell was competitive but in no way did he run Loma as close as say Robin Reid did with Calzaghe. Every ATG has had opponents they struggled against and / or lost to. Ali was almost knocked out by Henry Cooper, Jose Luis Castillo run Floyd Mayweather very close, Roger Mayweather floored Pernell Whitaker, Meldrick Taylor made Julio Cesar Chavez look like an amateur for 11 rounds and 58 seconds, Max Schmeling knocked out Joe Lous and the list goes on and on. Due to the fact Loma turned pro late, he has been fast-tracked and because he's only had 15 pro-fights it is easier to pick holes in his career.
I think loma s a phenomenal talent. I think hes very beatable tho. Cant say the same about roy jones who looked anything but beatable. The style the russians/ukranians have introduced is a joy to watch as was the cuban style. But both are slightly flawed. The russian one relys on energy. I reckon a lot of its based on getting the opponent working harder than they want to be working...to do that you need to be working hard yourself. I can see weight bullies, length and strong punchers giving it problems as well as their own ageing process making it less effective. Campbell caused problems with his length on saturday night. And a very good game plan. Canelo subdued golovkins style with his strong punching. He sat back...waiting for golovkin to commit then countered with strong punching to deter golovkin. Theres things that csn expose the style its just that theres few good enough nowsdays to pull it off. Against roy jones tho....to beat him you had to hope for an extremely bad night at the office for him. I still have no idea of a gzmeplan to tell my fighter how to go about beating roy jones. He was just that good.
Usyk, lomachenko and golovkin all have different styles. I think they all have one thing in common tho....they try to get the opponent working harder than they want to be. Then they usually drown them. Loma couldnt do it on saturday because campbells length stopped him from getting him working harder than he usually gets them working.
