Gene Tunney v Jimmy Ellis?

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  1. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    See Houdini's prior comment.
     
  2. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Geez, that Ellis never did get a whole lot of optimal matchups. And here's another one that is hardly a piece of cake/easy victory kind of match.

    I really like Gene to win a decision here. A comfortable decision but not an easy fight. 15 rounder for sure. Poor jimmy---lets put him in with the Bobicks or Neon Leon or Evangelista or some guys of that caliber instead.
     
  3. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    I was rewatching the excellent colorized version of Dempsey Tunney 2 recently posted and it dawned on me that Tunney fought a lot like Mayweather .. lightning fast hands and feet, excellent defense , jab - right , jab - right ..
     
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  4. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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  5. janitor

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    Tunney's heavyweight resume is thin, but for the best possible reasons.

    He retired at his absolute peak, with the division seemingly at his mercy.

    Whatever you think of that version of Jack Dempsey, he beat Jack Sharkey, who was clearly the only other candidate for being the top heavyweight of the day.

    Sharkey lost to Dempsey, and Tunney dominated Dempsey twice.

    I am not a betting man, but I would say that the title was Tunney's to lose for a couple of years.

    He couldn't have been beaten, without significantly elevating his conqueror!
     
  6. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    I agree. Dempsey was not what he was in 1919 or 1920 but he was still pretty badass .. if you watch their rematch he shows some very good defense, a lot of feinting, jabs to the body, far more than a one dimensional guy .. his limitation was his cluelessness about cutting off a ring, something he could not get away with on his 32 year old legs against a guy like Tunney who was lightning fast. Gene Tunney was for real.
     
  7. Rspen46

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    Excellent posts here about both gus and especially Tunney, just about all of them I agree with, and I would think most anyone would pick Tunney by UD, I don't really see any TKO's or KO's for sure in this one, Tunney talented enough to use his speed, defense and Ring Generalship to win a UD with no issues, and yes Jimmy would win 3-6 rounds depending on how the scoring goes over 15 rounds.
     
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  8. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Good idea..
     
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  9. Vic The Gambler

    Vic The Gambler Active Member Full Member

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    Tunney was incredible. No normal human born of woman ever beat him. (Harry Greb was, according to some on this forum, not human. Or didn’t exist. Something like that anyway.)

    So Ellis would stand no chance. He’d be outboxed for 15 rounds without Tunney breaking sweat, wind or a fingernail.

    Of course I’m being flippant…slightly.
     
  10. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    No I dont think Ellis would win a round. He might score a knockout in the 1st round though If he lines up that right hand.