Who is The Greatest Asian Fighter of All time???

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  1. CJLightweight

    CJLightweight Lightweight Kingpin Full Member

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    and those were also the same fans that are complaining once pac fought MAB for the 2nd time but the complaints started after the pac-mab 2 fight and not prior to

    and i wouldn't call about 10,000+ amount of people who voted as some
     
  2. CJLightweight

    CJLightweight Lightweight Kingpin Full Member

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    whats your top 10 or top 5 mexican boxers all time? I have morales at the top 5(no.2) but thats because he's my favorite fighter..
     
  3. Sweet Pea

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    1. Julio Cesar Chavez
    2. Ruben Olivares
    3. Vicente Saldivar
    4. Salvador Sanchez
    5. Oscar De La Hoya*
    6. Ricardo Lopez
    7. Erik Morales
    8. Marco Antonio Barrera
    9. Carlos Zarate
    10. Miguel Canto

    *Mexican-American
     
  4. reed_man02

    reed_man02 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Canto should be higher.
     
  5. reed_man02

    reed_man02 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No they're not. :lol:

    Barrera fans acknowledge that MAB lost to pac and just wanted him to get another shot. Many boxing fans wanted pac to fight JMM before MAB since pac already beat MAB and drew with Marquez. Also, JMM beat barrera so what reason did pac have to fight him other than $$$.
     
  6. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fighters like Hiroyuki Ebihara, Jose Medel and Pone Kingpetch have more claim to the HOF than does JMM imo.

    Oh and that one HOF that Harada beat just happened to be a staple top 20-30 all time fighter near his prime. Manny beat a top 100 all time fighter near his prime.
     
  7. Sweet Pea

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    Harada beat: Jofre X2(better fighter than Pac ever fought), Medel(I believe Medel was a HOF'er as a matter of fact, not sure), Kingpetch(I also assumed Kingpetch to be a HOF'er, in fact I'm pretty sure of it), Hiroyuki Ebihara(who was an excellent fighter as well, better than any Pac faced at lower weights such as Ledwaba and Sasakul), Bernardo Caraballo, Dwight Hawkins, etc. All top notch fighters. He was also robbed according to most accounts against another HOF'er in Johnny Famechon.

    If I'm correct, that's 3 HOF'ers(4 including Famechon), and of a higher quality given how the fights went down. Pac arguably lost to Marquez both times, and beat faded versions of Morales(after losing the first bout) and Barrera in the rematch. The first matchup with Barrera was his biggest win, as terrible as Barrera looked that night.

    Nobody said Pac wasn't great, we're simply saying he's not as great as Harada.
     
  8. Sweet Pea

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    But Kingpetch is not a HOF'er as it is? That isn't right IMO, he deserves it surely given what he accomplished in his career.
     
  9. PacDbest

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    Do you think your not biased yourself against Pac???? As I told you.. you are not the one who will vote for this title of the Greatest Asian fighter of all time. Those HOF guys I mentioned will. Not the ESB expert wannabe like you who have his hidden hate against Pac.:bbb
     
  10. CJLightweight

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    i see its a mexican-american list..good list, as long as morales is ahead of barrera its all good:yep
     
  11. PacDbest

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    That's what I'm saying to them for a long time. Pac is gunning for that Title of Greatest of all time. He's been the Best ASian even since he conquered Morales.
     
  12. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Niether he, nor Ebihara, nor Medel nor Famechon are in the HOF. Not sure they ever will get in either given their lack of popularity as fighters. In any case, they are all more worthy than JMM imo.
     
  13. reed_man02

    reed_man02 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Im not talking about money, I have my own views on that as well. We were discussing legacy and impact the Barrera rematch had on manny.
     
  14. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    one good thing that the rematch prove was pac will always give barrera trouble and will almost always win against him. it doesn't matter if barrera lost the title to marquez via a close decision. bottom line is, the first match was no fluke and puts the big bear fire excuse down the drain.

    not much about pac's legacy since he already demolished a younger barrera before. the rematch just confirmed it.
     
  15. PacDbest

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    I thought you said Medel and Kingpetch are HOF??? Now you said you're not sure!!! Coz you can't find any information to Prove that. Wannabe expert!!!!
     
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