Fury looking in tremendous shape

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  1. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Fury is a smart guy, some fans are getting annoyed with his choice of opponents but I think that Fury has a master plan. His plan A of going straight into the Wilder fight last year was calculated but winning did not come to fruition yet it still worked in his favour. These tune ups will shake off all the rust and I believe that Fury will hold all the belts by the end of 2020.
     
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  2. AlwaysFirst

    AlwaysFirst Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, that’s a good excuse, but what can Fury do better in a rematch (except not die and resurrect)? You’re right, Wilder is a “1 trick pony”, a very dangerous one, but, Wilder have good jab and are good at setting up his power shots. Wilder didn’t use any set up or used his jab in the fight with Fury, he was just loading up and missed a whole lot.

    If Wilder do some adjustments it’ll be a short night for Fury, if he doesn’t, it’ll be like the first fight and Wilder still might knock Fury dead.
     
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  3. Lith

    Lith Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That was Wilder's performance of his life, definitely the best I've seen him and there were questions of whether Fury would be ready - he is definitely looking more on form than he was before and it feels like a much safer bet that Fury will be better than he was last time than Wilder, however Wilder has "that power" which is always a threat. We know Fury can recover from it, though... and I suspect he wasn't as hurt as a lot of people expect.

    You don't get back into the fight that quickly and effectively if you are that hurt, he can clearly take / roll with the shots that DO hit him and he's smart enough to take a breather with a shot that hurts enough. I view Fury as the favourite, but acknowledge that there are a lot of dynamics that could throw it around and change everything. Fury IS leaning in on his punches more now than he used to, which could be interesting as well.
     
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  4. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't know. I don't live in Mexico. I doubt he was very popular there though.

    Mexicans respect fighters who will fight anyone.
     
  5. Oakland Billy Smith

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    Wilder will have to wait his turn behind tbe Otto Wallins and Tim Shawrtzs of tbe world. Those are the real fights the fans want to see

    Btw, Hatton was looking fabulous in the gym as well, before his fights with Mayweather and Pac
     
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  6. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Otto Wallin is Ingemarr Johannsson 2.0
     
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  7. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    A fit, focused, non ring rusty Fury is a nightmare for any of the present heavyweights out there, if the opportunity arises then he will get all the belts.

    I was as critical as anyone in early days of Furys verbal boasts about regaining the belts when he still weighed 350 pounds and had not fought for ages, however Fury reduced the talk and did the walk, and appears to be now consistently living the life of a athlete.

    Wilder might deck Fury again with a punch that has kept other opponents on the canvas, but Fury will prove Jack Dempseys quote correct "A champion is someone who gets up when he can't.".

    I do not think Wilder will be able to put Fury to the canvas again, i believe Fury will put on a defensive masterclass whilst racking up the points, and as now he is fight fit, he will not fatigue so avoiding the bombs landing on his mandible.
     
  8. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That was one of the worst performances of Wilder's career. He missed a ton of shots. He came in way under weight. He admitted his timing was way off. I don't know how anyone could watch Wilder-Fury I and say that was the BEST Deontay Wilder has looked.

    Honestly. Wilder has looked far better.

    I expect Wilder to be 10 to 15 pounds heavier and much sharper for the rematch, as he was in his last outing.
     
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  9. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Addict Full Member

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    One is a boxer the other is a puncher, to say that wilder will improve is unlikely, but he will believe that he can put Fury down and he can, Fury will be as elusive as always and it will again be magnified by the fact he is fighting a pretty one dimensional fighter in wilder, but Fury will be wary of wilders power.
    The most likely outcome for me is that fury will stay even more out of range than in the previous fight, and rack up the rounds but if wilder hits him with a power shot early then I think fury will lose confidence and show fear.
    Everyone is saying that fury will be fitter this time around and that’s most likely true, but I also think wilder will be fitter this time I think he underestimated fury and it showed he took a lot of time off in the later rounds without really being in an intense fight, he punched himself out really.
    Who wins? I don’t know tbh probably fury but I really don’t think much will change from the first fight.
     
  10. Dubblechin

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    I don't know how Fury can stay even MORE out of range and rack up points. Fury didn't rack up enough points to win on the cards last time.

    Fury needs to be more aggressive if he wants to win. And if he gets more aggressive, Wilder should catch him.

    Fury kind of fought the perfect fight last time. And he still got floored twice and didn't win. I honestly don't see how Fury will get better than that performance. Wilder was awful for much of the fight. He should be a lot better for the return.
     
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  11. Lith

    Lith Boxing Addict Full Member

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    These are all things I would have expected to see from Wilder when he faces someone like Tyson Fury, and the kind of excuse I'd expect to see from someone who wouldn't want to admit they were befuddled by someone with better ring IQ than themselves. I'm not sure if more weight is the solution to someone who was already a challenge to move with.
     
  12. NoNeck

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    He failed with American flag colors last time.
     
  13. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think fury could win the fight by being more aggressive by that’s definitely the most risky strategy, especially when he had wilder where he wanted him for the majority of the fight.
    I think he can be even harder to catch this time because he has a belief in himself this time that I think he gained during the fight, I think even fury knew that the first fight was probably a little bit to early but he grew into the fight and with that he became over confident and lax at times, I think it was clear to see that even a half fit fury had wilder boxed off and in his pocket, now that he is fully fit and more disciplined if he sticks to his game plan then there’s nothing wilder can do.
    Wilder was badly coached during the fight that’s for certain he should have smashed Fury’s weak kidneys to bits, but they didn’t even go to the body, or plan to, why wouldn’t any trainer in the sport want their fighter to work the body/ kidneys of a fighter who had been abusing drink and drugs for a fair amount of time.
    Maybe it’s because he’s not capable of changing his game plan? I don’t know if that’s the case but it’s fair to say that we have never seen any different strategy from the wilder camp.
    Fury on the other hand makes micro adjustments during fights without being prompted.
     
  14. N17

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    I'm starting to hope Wilder knocks Fury out, tats how much he is getting on my nerves now, actually they all are, but Fury is taking liberties.

    You can't go from fighting Wilder to Fury's last opponent (can't remember his name) and now Otto, the school bus driver fro the Simpsons.

    If there are Boxing Gods, Fury and Wilder both lose and Ruiz beats AJ again.

    And we get Ortiz Vs Ruiz for all the belts and Otto fights the winner.
     
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  15. McGrain

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    The "Mexico" headbands are a bit embarrassing but he just gets away with it. Gets away with murder he does.