Marciano v Cokkell Not In B & W.By D Brown

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  1. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Wrong yet again Burns had a reach of 74" the same as Johnson's!
    Wrong again Moran's reach was 76"
    Wrong again Jeffries reach was 76 1/2"
    That's three out of three ,want to try for 4! lol
     
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    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I started watching Marciano's fights in the middle 1960's.I'm up to speed with him thanks.
    Marciano looks faster against Louis because Louis is stationary did that never occur to you?
     
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  3. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think if you go back and look for it you wouldn’t be arguing. There really is no comparison. He was without a doubt quicker and more explosive but less skill. Also looked stronger to me as well. Unless old Louis just wasn’t as strong as Charles (pushed around old Louis and young Layne easier then the lighter Charles).
     
  4. Bah Lance

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    The agenda is obvious.

    Marciano's noteworthy scalps are put under such a microscope that the sheer number of rounds they fought are being accounted for as "wear and tear."

    Meanwhile in a grueling busy career fought exclusively at heavyweight that saw a swarmer sustain punishment in almost every fight and retire at a relatively young age, Marciano is being treated as a constant who never declined. In a very thread featuring footage of him against Cokell at the end of his career, where he is obviously not the physical speciman he was in his 20s.
     
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  5. choklab

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    Johnson certainly gives the impression that he has much longer arms than the much shorter Tommy burns on film. He is hitting Burns from a distance that Burns simply cannot reach him.

    Remember reach is measured as a wingspan rather than armpit to knuckle so having longer arms is more evident during combat. So the wingspan measurement (if that’s even reliable) is not really proof of having longer arms. It just means if you include the breadth of the neck, collar bones and shoulders with that of the arms and fingertips you get that particular measurement. One that has absolutely nothing to do with boxing. It is however the perfect measurement for an unusual one piece jacket with fingered gloves in place of the cuffs.

    I said that on film the difference in length of arms seems negligible between Johnson and Jeffries. Jim certainly looks no taller. Flynn is outreached on film too. Ketchel is outreached on film. These guys appear to have shorter arms to Johnson in that they can be hit from a distance where they cannot reach Johnson. It is obvious in the films.
     
  6. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Broken record. I'd take a bet you have photos of Rocky at home.lol
    Anyone who has done research on Marciano knows he lacked motivation for the Cokkell fight and questioned why he was fighting him? He trained accordingly without the dedication for which he was famous.Sparring sessions were called off,he was dropped by Toxie Hall and generally lack lustre which you would ,or at least should know!
    Marcinao looked as good as ever koing Moore just 5 months later.
    Now do me a favour stop digging me out with your oblique references .
     
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  7. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You're not labouring under the delusion that I actually expected you to admit you were wrong 3 times out of 3 are you?
    Surely you realise I know you better than that! Now be a good boy, and stop wasting my time.
     
  8. Bah Lance

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    I accept your surrender, child.

    If you are mad that your crap arguments got exposed and want to turn this into insults, you could at least come up with something better than boring homosexual innuendos...
     
  9. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Fella Ive forgotten more about boxing than you have yet to learn ,go and bore someone else.
     
  10. Bah Lance

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    You can say anything you want..but when it comes to demonstrating said knowledge, you only seem to know Jack and ****. You seem to be a magnet for drama around here, your highness.
     
  11. George Crowcroft

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    Satterfield vs Layne would be appreciated as well
     
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  12. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Haha lol

    Cockell would be Wilder's worst title defence by a decent distance.
     
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  13. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Naah I'm just an average poster,but one who is 3 steps ahead of you sunshine .
     
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  14. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Underrated fight
     
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  15. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Overrated heavyweights.