Why has Wilder never tried to unify?

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  1. Simon Head

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    There’s a lot of controversy surrounding the Joshua vs Wilder fight, and I think Parker was always going to go down the Joshua root, made more sense for him, so I think the main reason is either opportunities, or he did not want to face Joshua.

    Unifying is not the problem I have with Wilder though, my problem is there is better opponents out their form him to face Whyte, Pulev, Povetkin etc and instead of fighting them which his fans would love, he faces guys outside the official top 20, or rematches he knows he will win.
     
  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    For him to accept the 120 million he was offered...
     
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  3. HerolGee

    HerolGee VIP Member banned Full Member

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    no point in trying to unify if it means losing your title.
     
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  4. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    therein doesn't lie the answer. Fighting mando's to keep his own belt doesn't get him any closer to unification fights as unification trumps mandatories.
     
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  5. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    Work with me, browsed to get a few dates...


    Ok, the year he wins WBC 2015, Fury wins all the other belts against WK.
    Wilder nor anyone can get to these belts because:
    1. rematch wasn't announced until April 8 2016 to take place 9 July 2016
    2. Fury cancels it 7 July, He Tweets new date October 2016
    3 At this point the HW belts are locked down by Fury and his ever changing dates to rematch. to me this means Wilder nor anyone could fight for any belts during 2016.
    4. Around September/October he relinquished belts.
    5. Same month Wilder lined up a title defense, Martin & Klazgov go for vacant IBF who lost it in a few months to AJ. Both Martin & Wilder fought twice in that 6 month period. At this point I'm not sure how Wilder could've been seen ducking a 15-0 AJ.

    6. After Wilder beats Molina, AJ does same a bout a year later
    7. Not sure what state Wlad was in during 2016. Did he call out Wilder or WIlder vice verse? Don't remember, but do know after Wilder set title defense Feb 2017, Wlad & AJ set date about 2 months later.
    8. AJ has 1 belt & Wlad another? With vacant that = 3 titles, AJ wins.
    9. Wilder rematches Stiverne then takes on Ortiz. 4whatever reasons he is some ancient relic now. Even though he 28-0 won 3 out of his last 4 fights by TKO/KO 38 is old for him, yet how many fighters today are still viable at that age? More and more are..
    Apparently Parker & Povetkin are just superstar HW's Wilder avoided. OK.
    So it is during 2017 end that I came to accept both Wilder & AJ were calling each other as ducking, raising the bar to high, turning down trillion dollar offers, but I am supposed to take one side over the other? OK.
    10. I blame both camps. This isn't Wilder's fault anymore than it is AJ. It is there sorrowful game-playing promoters. It is the way of the world of boxing now.

    And as far as unify?
    If one champion should be held accountable to unify, then all should. Weight class shouldn't be the criteria for which champs has to unify.
    I get derailed for asking why Pacman only needed to win one belt out of 8 division, so it is kinda tough to wonder those telling me why Pac didn't need to unify, surely they should be hear doing the same?
    I'm just looking for a SINGLE vetting process for all. Unify is the word, to which Wilder will never gain my respect outside being a hellatious puncher if he doesn't try to unify.

    He is still writing his legacy at 34. I give him another 2-4 years.
     
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  6. MeatFeastMan

    MeatFeastMan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I wonder why he hasn't unified. I dunno..it's a really tough, EXTREMELY difficult question to answer. I mean it could be the fact that he's been running scared of AJ. He saw him smash Klitschko to pieces despite having a punch from the heavens landed on him and having to recover..and he wanted none of it.

    Forget Ruiz, AJ knocks Deonkey Wilder out cold. Thankfully Fury will get the job done before AJ has the chance to.

    I find it interesting that after all this time in the shadows, Deonkey has come out to now say he wants to unify. What could have changed in that time that makes it a more intriguing proposition? Could be an opponent change maybe?
     
  7. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilders promoter stated that Wilder wasnt ready to fight Wlad despite being a WC at time.

    Pulled out of the Povetkin fight, got sued by Povetkin and had to pay him compensation.

    Turned down not only career high purse to fight AJ but more than he earned is overall career in total.

    Turned down offers for fights from Whyte and Chisora to fight lesser opposition.

    Wilder has been very protected by Haymon and the WBC fighting only hand picked opponents who are a good match for stylistically.
     
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  8. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This sums things up with Wilder todate fingers crossed the right guys will now fight.
     
  9. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Wlad and his promoter never tried to make or talked about a unification fight with Wilder. Wilder staetd he wanted to fight the winner of Wlad vs Fury.

    Lies. Wilder sued Povetkin. Povetkin and his lawyers were able to get back the money that was sued from them , but Wilder never paid him a dime in any sort of compensation.
    That fight fell through because Povetkin was on drugs.
     
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  10. Tramell

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    That was my take on the case.
    Pov Popped, so Wild stayed home. Pov said he violated WBC rules, while jury said Pov was dirty, but the WBC runs the show.

    And I remember Wlad-Fury being Wilder's next option, but I admit things got a bit hazy as Fury kept delaying rematch for Wlad who was bound to give one by their contract.

    Just a big mess, so I understand why there are Wilder, Fury & AJ detractors.
     
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  11. HerolGee

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    yeh he did try to face Pov, didnt he. That said Povs not all that anyway.
     
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  12. ipitythefool

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    For all his idiotic ranting about being the baddest man on the planet etc (he can't even come up with original slogans) Windmill knows he is not nearly as skilled as the other elite HWs and his right hand can only take him so far. That's why he cherry picks pastry chefs, ex football players polish hooligans and old men. He only fought Fury cos he was only 50%. I'm not convinced the rematch will go ahead.
     
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  13. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This article states different regarding the Povetkin vs Wilder
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rt...ay-wilders-alexander-povetkin-court-case/amp/
     
  14. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because simply talking about it without following through is much easier and less risky
     
  15. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    The article says the money connected to their fight was frozen in an Escrow account. Which means Wilder was trying to get paid for the fight anyway. They just got back their own money.
    Wilder paid them nothing out of his own pocket and the lawsuit against him was for defamation of character , not for pulling out of the fight.