Devin Miles Haney vs. Zaur Magomedalievich Abdullaev & Michael Hunter II vs. Sergey Kuzmin RBR.

Winning the gold medal in the Olympics shows he has that something special. Doesn't always translate to the pros but he is legit.

Luke Campbell, 13-2 in the amateurs, losing to the same fighter twice, who had over 70 fights. Haney, by comparison, was 24-5 as an amateur, losing to one fighter in his debut fight but he did beat Ryan Garcia twice decisively. Loma 396-1 with two Olympic gold medals.

Sometimes the hype is legit. Sometimes not. Time will tell.

 

As I asked. Who had Campbell beaten? Amateur has no bearing on Pro accomplishment. Felix Diaz is not a top level pro. Neither is Campbell.

 

I think we know where you stand. No point in beating a dead horse.

 

You are starting to sound like Blizzy

 

Every single LW opponent Loma has faced are more proven & better than every single one of Haneys

 

I love that quote!

And fair enough. I admit my disdain for Andrade and GRJ is the fact that neither has shown much urgency about his career. Broner is tough to support for a variety of reasons. My sense is that Haney has more ambition, so I'm pulling for him.

 

Not saying haney couldnt beat loma i just dont think he has enough experience yet. That's all.

 

We can agree to disagree. Meanwhile Tank is probably going to fight Gamboa. Is he a top challenger? Do you think tank is considering that fight because it’s a challenge? He’s looking for easy wins. I can’t knock Haney because I like him but he’s not ready for Loma level. I hope to see one of these young guys step up to even Campbell. Gamboa isn’t a legit challantger these days. Loma is fighting the winner of Teo-Commey. After that, I hope Tank or Haney is next. Meanwhile, it doesn’t look like these young guys want to fight each other. They just want a shot at the top. Do t blame them but Loma wants to unify. Can’t criticize that unless you truly hate the guy.

 

the truth is that whether haney's prepared or not, imho, there's no need to rush anything. He's 20 yo and lomachenko is not young but he's not so old, nothing happens if they delay the fight a couple of years more. That said, lomachenko will regret if it happens like that. The guy of the video, (dwyer?), spoke nothing but the truth.

 

Yeah and if Haney whoops his ass then what will you say? You can scream who wins all you want. I have to see it to believe it.

 

How are you proven when your best win is a domestic level guy? Just because you paid enough sanctioning fees to beat bums and get rated as mandatory, doesn't mean you are good.

 

I'm with you on that. As usual the Loma gobblers are up in arms about any opinion of Loma being threatened. They get fairly insecure when the guy is a stud. Makes them a bit nervous.

 

So Loma’s second tier opponents are still at world champion/world champion contention level. What’s your point? Pedraza would probably beat Haney right now, and Campbell definitely would.

 

No Pedraza is a 135/140 pounder who was draining hard to fight at 130. He stayed at 130 for the Davis fight, then fought in a style and stance that he never usually does. Loma haters such as yourself always ignore that fact, and the fact that Pedraza took more rounds from and had a more dominant round against Davis than against an injury recovering Lomachenko. Pedraza is an awkward, world class fighter.

Crolla you’re right about, and Lomachenko dispatched of him accordingly. Another criticism of Lomachenko is that he isn’t a big puncher, while people ignore he is fighting at the very top of the sport from the start of his pro career. His stoppage ratio is ridiculous, and he has had one punch knockouts in his first fight at 130 and at 135 (to beat the champ in world title fights). If Loma fought the guys that Haney and Lopez had we would be talking about Lomachenko as if he’s Mike Tyson. I have no doubt that Lomachenko is a heavier puncher than the likes of Davis and Mikey Garcia (and Haney obviously).

Campbell is obviously world champ level, again people look at an L against Linares without having actually seen the fight or understanding the context of that fight. Has Haney or Lopez fought anyone close to Linares level? So what would we say when Lomachenko beat them? You’d talk trash about Haney and his record then bring up the next hypejob. I remember how GRJ, Walters and Rigo were going to thrash Lomachenko. We’ve heard this all before.

 

This comment right here seems like a case of you smoking from Loma's pipe a bit too much. Haney would smoke both Pedraza and Campbell.

Loma's opponents at lightweight, for the most part aren't even world class opponents. Pedraza is Tank's son, and had done nothing at 135. Campbell has never beaten more than a Domestic level opponent. Two guys who got title shots due to an extremely thin division. Linares was solid, but his best wins were Crolla, and Campbell. Loma then goes and fights Linare's leftovers, as well as Tank's left overs, and you are here talking about world class opposition.