Devin Haney is a bad matchup for Loma, stylistically

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  1. CST80

    CST80 Liminal Space Autochthon Staff Member

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    Note the date when I made the post.

    So you're saying that a thoroughly unproven post-Menard match Haney is more skilled than Rigondeaux? Or more skilled than Walters, who had wins over Donaire & Darchinyan via stoppage, as well as Marriaga and what should have been win over Sosa?
     
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  2. Incinerate

    Incinerate Active Member Full Member

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    Anyone with Loma's speed wouldn't be at a disadvantage or a bad style match up. Speed kills. I'd probably pick Loma to win. Haney punches are too wide for me. Haney is getting better at standing in front of you and throwing, but does Loma just stand in front of you? Haney has gotten heads better, but I don't think that he beats Loma. But, I'd love to see the fight. Haney is about as dangerous a challenger as it gets.
     
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  3. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Move the goal post much? First it was "Walters only received two clean punches" and now it's "Walters received no harm at all."

    You're a joke. Go **** yourself.
     
  4. Zulawski

    Zulawski The Fistic Pariah Full Member

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    Rigo had a good win over Donaire and went to japan to get KD'd and headbutted and grow old before fighting a guy several weight classes up.

    Nicolas Walters looked decent pretty solely because of his height and length, and that was before he moved up and looked pretty underwhelming. Then he took a year off before the Loma fight came together.

    I'd put Loma's wins over Pedraza/Linares/Campbell above them. Even if Linares fell apart right after. It's not like we didn't know he was chinny.

    I'm not sure how Haney is stylistically related to Walters at all. With Rigo, you could say they're both back foot counter punches, but Haney is also 5'9, still growing and will likely end his career at welterweight or even super welterweight. He won't be an old man like Rigo was by then either.

    People have known Haney was coming and would be a force to be reckoned with for years.

    So yeah, your post sucks and you should feel bad.
     
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  5. CST80

    CST80 Liminal Space Autochthon Staff Member

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    His best wins are Juan Carlos Burgos and Zaur Abdullaev. Get a grip you shameless dickrider.
     
  6. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    “Several weight classes up”????

    Rigo was offered the fight at 126 but turned it down, the fact Loma moved up and then Rigo accepted Is on Rigo NOT Lomachenko
     
  7. RealDeal

    RealDeal Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    I’m a big Loma fan; in fact, he’s my current favorite fighter. But I admit that Haney is the main guy who has been worrying me for some time now. I see this as pretty much a 50/50 fight, with maybe just a slight advantage to Loma (so maybe like 55/45) if fought within the next year or so. I do like Haney though, so even while I don’t want to see Loma lose, I’d be happy for Haney. He’s going to be a star eventually, regardless of what happens with Loma.
     
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  8. NasalSpray

    NasalSpray Well-Known Member Full Member

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    timing beats speed, ask Amir Khan
     
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  9. The Ogdoad

    The Ogdoad Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Haney is clearly more skilled than Walters ever was/is. That you try and make that your argument is laughable. You trashed Darchinyan back when Walters beat him down. Why try to bring up Darchinyan now as if it he added anything to Walters' resume? The Marriaga fight was bull****, as Walters purposely didn't make weight. The Sosa draw was fair.

    Rigondeaux is an old man, and was an old man when he fought Lomachenko. Probably the only areas were Rigo does something better than Haney at this point is the counter left, and he hits harder comparatively.
     
  10. The Ogdoad

    The Ogdoad Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Exactly. This is the difference between a fan, and a ball gobbler. You are a true fan.
     
  11. CST80

    CST80 Liminal Space Autochthon Staff Member

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    I made that post after he stopped Menard, chill out. My opinion of Haney has changed since then you hysterical woman.

    Darchinyan is still a better win than anything Haney has on his resume.

    Marriaga was an undefeated KO artist that I rated highly going into the fight.

    I picked Sosa to win, Sosa lost.

    Old men don't go to war with Ceja and brutally knock him out. Spare me with your shameless hate fueled agenda pushing.
     
  12. Zulawski

    Zulawski The Fistic Pariah Full Member

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    You're right. Rigo and Lomachenko are the same size. That's why Loma will finish his career at 135 or 140 and Rigo will finish his at 122. Because they're the same size!

    Also, beyond size, age and schedule were both in Loma's favor. Plenty of people said it wouldn't be competitive. It wasn't. Rigo has since went to war without a hint of the slick backfoot stuff that made him great, for one fight against Donaire at least.
     
  13. Zulawski

    Zulawski The Fistic Pariah Full Member

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    At Haney's age Loma was dropping rounds to 40 year old chinese dudes in 4 rounders. Get a grip.
     
  14. CST80

    CST80 Liminal Space Autochthon Staff Member

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    Someone's got a crush!:gayfight:
     
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  15. Zulawski

    Zulawski The Fistic Pariah Full Member

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    Somebody is projecting.

    I'd pick Loma over Haney precisely because of the experience gap. But Haney is a blue chip prospect who will prob be a multiweight champ and is much bigger than Loma already. In a few years, especially with Loma in his 30s, he would prob get destroyed.

    That's just how boxing works. Big guys beat small ones. Young ones beat old ones. That's what makes it so special when they don't.

    I'm glad I could explain the sport of boxing to you. DM me if you need to know anything else. Happy to help.