Julio César chavez knockout Roberto duran

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  1. louis54

    louis54 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Chavez was great enough but duran was probably the greatest all round fighter ever
     
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  2. Rspen46

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    Finaly someone said it, Duran overrated, it's about time, please tell me what he has done in his Career, besides dominate the LW division, challenge Aaron Pryor and get turned down, move up 2 divisions and beat Pipino Cuevas, Carlos Palomino, Sugar Ray Leonard, then move up to JMW and defeat Moore a champion & others 3 divisions above his normal career weight.
    Then move to MW and nearly beat Hagler, overrated just does not say it all, I know missed a lot of others he beat, but that gives you a general idea, how about bum, yeah lets call him bum, not overrated, or how about overrated bum, anyone could have accomplished all he has done.

    LOL!
     
  3. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not to mention it didn't even make sense
     
  4. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No way prime 135 Chavez Kos prime 135 lb Duran.

    Yes, a lot of Mexicans on YouTube, etc. are blantantly biased and subjective when discussing Chavez. National pride and emotion prevail over dispassionate logical analysis.
     
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  5. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    To point out the subjectivity of many Mexican fanboys. I've "argued" with a few on YouTube. Trying to get them to understand why aggression alone can't win fights is impossible. Something about Machismo. They couldn't even understand why Jose Luis Ramirez beating Pernell Whitaker in their first fight was a bad decision.
     
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  6. Mendoza

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    Duran was a great lightweight. Chavez a great welter weight. He wasn't very flashy but he was tougher, and had a mean hook to the body.

    @ 147, this one is close tp pick em, but I think Duran's style plays in to Chavez's hands.
     
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    Jingoism is jingoism, regardless of the nationality of the dolt spewing it.
     
  8. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Chavez was no Welterweight.
     
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  9. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Roberto Duran is from Panama, Carlos Monzon is from Argentina. In a 15 round tile fight with prime Duan and Julio Caesar Chavez at 135 pounds, Duran would win a unanimous decision over Chavez. Duran fought with an intense anger, on a mission to dismantle an opponent as we saw against Esteban De Jesus and Ray Lampkin. He could also box, and learned how to street fight on the slums of Panama. Chavez had a workmanlike stoppage of Edwin Rosario, to win the WBA lightweight title in 1987. Chavez was a very hard puncher with good concentration and a terrific left hook to the body. It does not matter where a fighter is from as long as they demonstrate their skills in the ring. I also believe different strokes for different folks. Both were great champions in their respective careers.
     
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  10. christpuncher

    christpuncher Active Member banned Full Member

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    There was no style of anyone of a similar size which troubled Duran, Chavez included.
     
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  11. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You left out winning fights in 5 decades
     
  12. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Chavez was a great welterweight? he was tougher? Chavez was offered a fight with Duran at 154 when Roberto was about 44 and Chavez said no. I'd think a great welterweight would have had no trouble at 154,,,,,,,,or are you completely wrong. Chavez was at best a jr Welter
     
  13. Sting like a bean

    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    A few years ago I was watching the Star Wars prequels with some friends, and an acquaintance who was Portuguese could not stop laughing.
    Someone asked what was so funny.

    “In Portugal how this character is called is count Dokan. They must have changed for Portuguese version because in Portuguese “Dooku” means “from the ass”.

    To this day I don’t know if he was bullshitting us.
     
  14. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He isn't the greatest Middleweight in history if one know anything about his title defenses. And really, if you look at him realistically on film he wasn't as special as some of you make him out to be.... Hell, most who saw the fight still will say Bennie Brisco beat him in his home country. really how special was he.
     
  15. Mendoza

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    Okay, Jr welterweight. I stand corrected, but on fight night he was over the welter limit. Personally, I dislike all of the super and jr divisions.

    Yes, I think Chavez was tougher and more durable than Duran. Chavez had nothing to gain by beating a 44-year-old Duran, but if they meet in their prime, it would be heck of a fight!

    What makes Chazez tough? Well, he wasn't legitimately stopped until he was age 36 ( first stoppage was a cuts loss ) which was his 104th pro fight! Chavez had a usually thick cranium. The guy could take a punch and never relied on speed to win the easy way.

    Duran meanwhile has his share of excuses, tough when things were going his way is not the same as tough when things aren't going your way.