The only reason he loses rounds is because he fights differently against lower level opponents, probably to avoid being labelled as the boring fighter you describe him as.
That’s complete nonsense though isn’t it. Two of the cards in the Klitschko fight were 115-112, and he most definitely lost rounds against Wilder, specifically the two were he was dumped on his backside. This is a case in point of why people overrate him. ‘Only loses rounds when he changes style against lesser opponents.’ ‘What about all the rounds he lost when he stepped up?’
You know it's desperation when you are citing a Klitschko card in Germany as evidence. Fury schooled the living **** out of Wlad and if it was boring who cares? That's largely Wlad's fault who ran out of ideas and conceded after that he hardly threw his right hand because he was missing and getting tagged when he tried it. If Wlad actually attacked more he would have been knocked spark out and it would have gone down as an unbelievable performance. In any event Fury schooled the **** out of Wlad.
It’s pointless debating, mate. When it comes to the subject of Tyson Fury, Tony’s hate takes over and he loses all balanced thought processes.
Even so there is no shame in losing rounds against the best heavyweight of the last 10 years. I assumed when you mentioned losing rounds you meant vs lower level opposition. Even floyd lost plenty of rounds...Ali lost rounds...Duran lost rounds...Christ, even the great AJ loses...fights...
A further example of why some people think Fury is overrated. Despite the fact (in this thread even) that I’m happy to accept Fury is a clear top three heavyweight who could easily end up beating Joshua and Wilder my hatred of him makes the debate a non starter. I actually think it’s very clear the opposite is true. Regardless of my personal dislike or otherwise of the man, my approach is at least sensible. Yours is to compare him with Ali, talk about schoolings and so on. Fury wins fights by landing about a dozen or so more shots and never hurting his opponents at top level. That’s not a schooling.
So when you said he only loses rounds when he changes style against lower opposition you also meant he loses rounds when he retains his defensive style against good opposition? Basically, he loses rounds in just about every fight he has despite being ‘almost impossible to hit?’ A perfect example of fanboyism at its finest.
Jesus christ... If I’ve been a fanboy of anyone, it certainly isn’t Tyson Fury... I’m just a rational human being with half a brain. Ray Robinson lost fights, he’s so overrated.
You often read Fury fanboys talking about how he 'rocked' Wilder in the 12th round after the knock down. Then you watch the video and you see he landed three punches - two of which landed on shoulders - and the only reason they think he did well is because he did that daft hands behind back thing.
Fury hit Wilder with some serious 1, 2s and speed but Wilder was never staggered. As soon as Wilder caught Fury though it was good night irene. Insane power difference but same speed lol Fury is 2. Inches taller and 50 pounds heavier as well
Personally I think Fury is stylistically a nightmare for anyone but I base this on his height and reach. If Fury was 6'4 for example, I'd expect him to already have 2 or 3 defeats on his record... But he's not he's allegedly 6 '9 and a defensive fighter who leans away and predominantly paws with a relaxed fist. I think he has a massive heart and a natural fight engine which definitely defies his size and shape. Alternatively, his lack of power also contradicts his size. His chin is questionable, especially going down hard against journeyman Pajkic and Cunningham but his powers of recovery are immense. I think he’s fighting for the number 1 spot with Wilder, Joshua and Ruiz right now but there’s no way Fury can be considered an ATG with a paper thin 1-0-1 resume at championship level though.
Haha. Getting into a debate with you when the subject is ‘Tyson Fury’ is a non-starter mate. You forever bring up the comparison I made with Ali yet fail to add the context in which it was said. You do this to undermine debate and make out that people like myself aren’t rational when it comes to discussing Fury. I believe I am rational, i’m certainly no fanboy and I try to offer balanced opinion. The Ali comparison was to do about their message transcending the world of boxing and entering the mainstream. Ali’s was to highlight racial inequities, and Fury’s message through the medium of ESPN is to raise the awareness of talking openly about mental health. In no way do I make any comparisons to Ali ‘in the ring’. No doubt you’ll ignore this and continue to try and undermine me my opinion by using this as an example. Anyway, let’s not digress from the thread topic anymore.
I don't know about a nightmare (off the top of my head Holmes, Shavers, and Lewis at times had a much easier time landing their excellent overhand rights against taller opponents...same with Bowe). But sure, anyone that big is going to be awkward to fight. Holmes would have probably been tickled to fight Fury, his overhand would start landing early, and Fury would be discombobulated by the jab. Fury just hasn't done enough to warrant anything near ATG consideration. He got beat by Wilder (imo), who might end up being the most enduring champ out of all today.
