How do you think old-school boxers (pre-1950s) would perform against today’s top competitors?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    How do you think old-school boxers (pre-1950s) would perform against today’s top competitors if they were brought back to life in their prime, and exposed to modern training techniques, nutrition, and etc? What percentage from back then would be world champs today?
    Please tell me if this belongs in classic.
     
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  2. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    Completely depends on glute activation mate.
     
  3. SHADAPBLAD

    SHADAPBLAD Viscous Knockouts Full Member

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    They would **** them up. These modern fighters spar easy fighters 2x a week and then fight an average boxer once a year, if that. Completely different story to the older guys. Just different animals
     
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  4. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They wouldn't do nearly as well and would get battered by the best today.
    The talent pool today is much bigger than in 1950s, probably 5x as many people do boxing now, with talent pool 5x the size, the average level will rise, especially that boxing was only big in America back then really.
     
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  5. SHADAPBLAD

    SHADAPBLAD Viscous Knockouts Full Member

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    Please list some sources. Altho I have a strong feeling u r a clown anyway
     
  6. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I disagree with this notion. Boxing was the most popular sport in the United States from the turn of last century until the 1940's when baseball usurped it as most popular. It remained the second most popular sport in the country until the 1970's when basketball and eventually football (NFL) surpassed it as well. Boxing also had scholarships offered for collegiate level boxing (NCAA,) until the 1960's which allowed kids who would have no chance going to a university to parlay their boxing skills into earning a bachelor's degree, something that hasn't been around in the US for over 50 years now.

    What does that mean? Well a lot of the young athletes gravitated towards boxing at a young age from 1900-1950 since basketball wasn't around and football was in its infancy stage. Almost all the young athletes flocked to boxing gyms or got into baseball at a young age. For the last 30 years (at minimum,) barely any of our top athletes in the states start boxing at a young age since parents don't want their kids punching each other in the head (CTE reasons,) and because a lot of the other sports have just a high a reward system with a fraction of the risk from a physical standpoint.

    Boxing is a niche sport as far as popularity is concerned in the United States. Compare that to the UK where it's arguably the second most popular sport in that region behind futbol/soccer. That's the reason there's so many UK fighters from a smaller population source compared to the states.

    there's this old saying that the heavyweight champion of the world is playing in the NFL. There's a lot of merit to what I'm saying since only a diminutive fraction of our top tier athletes go into boxing from a young age in comparison to pre-1950. Hence the reason why the majority of the ATG's are American's and from the pre-1950's.
     
  7. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yesterday's fighters would get poleaxed. The world is a much bigger place and boxing is now a more global sport. It has indeed declined in the United States, but even then that's on a per capita basis.

    You also have to consider that even in the US, a lot of black fighters were denied title shots on the basis of race. More indirectly, they didn't get the same opportunities to participate as youth and develop.
     
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  8. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    They were much tougher and had more stamina back then.
     
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  9. Malph

    Malph Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They might have been tougher then. Probably were. They fought more often. But technique evolves. Training evolves. Sports science evolves. The fighters of today would probably dominate.
     
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  10. bruce_keyes

    bruce_keyes Well-Known Member Full Member

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    they would perform quite poorly, because back in the 50's there was no SNAC supplements. and the trainers back then weren't as good as todays, like Tunde Ajayi, Abel Sanchez, Shane McGuigan and etc...
     
  11. ertwin

    ertwin Active Member Full Member

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    Man i really get sick of all these americans here sucking their own dik.
    Lets face it boxing has become the follow matchup:

    Latin american vs former ussr guy

    Some us or uk trash in between thats todays boxing.
     
  12. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    They would do FAR BETTER in this era, than today's would do if we placed them back in yesteryear's era, where no PPV, meant U R fighting 10x a year minimum.

    No plethora of belts, so guys can't opt to fight for one belt and move up.
    No hand injections for Mayweather.
    No catch weights for Pac to win titles.
    And if we go Pre-Dempsey aint no count...They get dropped, as soon as they get up , no count, gotta scrap.

    Hank Armstrong's output, Ray Robinson's One punch KO power, Archie Moore's 132 KOs, Burley's high connect rate. Marciano today is a legit Cruiser.
    Usyk aint walking thru Marciano, he got a war on his hands. Pep & Sadler aren't getting outclassed.

    HW's today have the lowest punch output IMO in the history of HW's. Fury, Wilder, AJ, these dudes have no clue what its like to face fighters who throw & worry about consequences later.


    Give the old timers today's conditioning coach, nutritionists, multiple belts per division to vie for, haggling over gloves, ring size, venue 4 home advantage, opportunity to catch a foe at the wrong weight-& they will do fine.

    Today's fighters in yesteryear? 100-200 fights in a career? And dirty tactics were quite common. They bring roughhouse tactics that would make Ward look like a boyscout boxer.
     
  13. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Not very good.
    The old timers at welter for instance would basically be smallish semi-pro lightweights, because of the de- and rehydration tricks of the current boxers.
    Also, place them in this time and they wouldn't be connected to one of the major promotors and thus wouldn't be able to get a decision against their much bigger opposition anyway, even if they were to outbox them.
     
  14. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you brought the old timers to this era, why would they be facing much bigger opposition? Wouldn't they be fighting under today's rules - which would allow them to de- and rehydrate just like today's boxers?
     
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  15. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    You have a point there.
    Which means you would have to put the old timer middleweights against modern welters