It was within his prime. Joe Louis lost to Schmeling within his prime. Lennox lost within his prime. Patterson lost within his prime. It happens and It’s okay.
Most of them would not get out of the first round.....and that includes the china chin Walcott. No balding skinny oldtimers in their late 30's with 2597 fights on the clock will ever give Tyson a work out....Fact......and the younger cannon fodder on that listTyson would wax in his first ten Pro fights without breaking a sweat......... None on that list have ever seen or encountered a fighter like Tyson, ever,size, speed, footwork, foot speed, chin, lights out power in both hands with text book technique. Conclusion: Tyson will walk thru that list like a hot knife thru butter.......and let me include Marciano too, he would wake up in the dressing room and wondering why the doctor looks at him concerned because he just came out of a coma..
So Douglas was an off night? How about Tillis? Where was this “hot knife through butter” against Mitch Green, Bonecrusher, Tucker and Jose Ribalta?
Louis was prime for Max Baer, Carnera And Paulinho uzcudun And they all came before fighting Schmeling.
For all the talk that Marciano fans have delusions of ability (everyone’s got their favorites I suppose nothing wrong with that) Tyson fans have a similar problem. When Tyson was faced with adversity from an equally skilled opponent he folded. I also see many saying “well how would Rocky do in his 20 fight” etc etc. well how did Tyson do at age 30? How many HOFs did he beat? Could Tyson have beaten these men at the age of 30? Ahhh now the question is different. Marciano and Tyson at the same age I’m not so sure Tyson does as well. I could see Tyson dropping a fight at that age. Age 30 Tyson (one who lost to Holyfield) losses to Marciano any day of the week. Hell I’d pick Marciano to wear out the prime 21 year old. Although it would be close. Tyson was fast but it was in short bursts and had to be at his exact range. He didn’t like guys who could keep him at a distance or fight in close. If u could control the distance w Tyson and had a chin you could win as he was a different fighter after six rounds. I’ll take Teddy Atlas word for it although it may be biased he did have some points. That being said loved watching Tyson he was a warrior and is without a doubt a top ten fighter ever!!! But he wasn’t some unstoppable force...that’s a myth
Yeah, I agree with this. And I loved Tyson. If people knock him I will defend him but if Tyson is being boosted he deserves to be examined in greater detail under the same microscope as all the other great fighters. Tyson is a great. And his story is phenomenal. He was a disturbed child who absorbed a mind boggling amount of technical boxing knowledge. The things he could do was amazing. So fast that it was very difficult to beat him to the punch ..and he had such an expert understanding of distance and angles, to read the opponent, pin point timing that he really was deadly. Scary to watch. All that really beat him was mental maturity and lack of trench warfare to call upon. Because he had everything else. What happened was the business decided on Tyson. But they decided on him because he really was that good! Tyson mania put boxing back on the map. That’s not Mikes fault. But when the business decides on it being about just one guy it then stops the heavyweight division being quite the level playing field for everyone else. Sure some of them were genuinely intimidated by how good Tyson really was but just as many opponents saw how much the business wanted Tyson to win. At the end of the day the business made sure the fans got what they wanted because Tyson really delivered. But in the scheme of things this was a totally new landscape. Boxing had never really been about just one fighter ever before. All the other champions had to make their bones in a much more level playing field than Tyson did. So that needs brining up.
In1996 at age 30, with a total of 4 rounds of actual ring combat since his incarceration Tyson won the WBC title from Bruno ,and won the WBA title from Seldon, he would have beaten all those I named as well. Here's a return question to indicate the absurdity of yours. Q.Tyson was out of the ring for 4 years. From the age of 25 until 29. If Marciano had the same time frame absence from the ring, and the same preparation. How would he have done?LOL!!!
My point is you just picked an arbitrary age that you thought would suit your stance. Take four years out of Marciano's prime as was done to Tyson, [deservedly so] and what do you have? This then makes a mockery of your criteria!
Marciano had practically zero boxing experience let along ring combat by the age of 24/25. Some military sparring that’s it. By the age of 29 Tyson has far more boxing knowledge then Marciano. My criteria is perfectly fine being mocked as I was mocking the silliness of the Marciano criteria. It’s supposed to be mocked. That being said I doubt Tyson does undefeated at that age.
No there is no "similar" problem. There is no viral "put Tyson against 280lb 6'8" MegaHWs three weight classes above him syndrome", as the Rockista gang is infested with. Simply stop putting the LHW-CW champ into spheres he couldn´t proove anything, its N O N S E N S E. Everyone half an brain is getting tired of this. Rarding this stultified topic, as you guys wanna see Tyson slaughter the 187er pounders of yesterday: Rocky beat this fellows in an avarage 9 rounds. Tyson beats them in a 9 rounds total.
Are you implying Tyson couldn’t handle the giants today? He was only 215-220. How could he possibly handle the modern 300 pound giants of today? Your schtick is old and nonsensical nor is it comparable with actual historical results. Tyson would kill these bums. Moving up in weight is easy for Most skilled fighters. It’s been proven time and time again. We’ve been through the long list of LHWs/ cruisers who’ve moved up and won titles or competed even in today’s modern **** show.
