Joe Joyce vs the following

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Alex Stewart
    Bert Cooper
    old George Foreman
     
  2. CANNONBALL

    CANNONBALL Well-Known Member Full Member

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    beats stewart, toss up against Cooper if bert was on fire and gets stopped by Foreman
     
  3. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    loses to all of them
     
  4. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Foreman may stop him ,maybe not but only 10 fights in theres going to be a point in time only about 3/4 fighters get by Joyce and that windows closing. Foreman is not as fast nor as long to those who like speed comparisons . One thing Joyce has common with Foreman is real good timing to set up a shot . Edge would go to Joyce however using stats bc Foreman has struggled with guys over 225 and both can be out boxed by the elite smaller technical guys in Foreman's case ..Holyfield and in Joyces case ... Usyk { though he was green ).

    Cooper and Stewart get knocked out or worked over ,Joyce under Foreman power but has him by a mile in ability to throw volume and chase down guys with quicker feet.
     
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  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    JJJ via KO x 3
     
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  6. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    How would you rank each of them for punch power though?
     
  7. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    No way could he stop Foreman, he had a chin made of steel.
     
  8. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Foreman had a better jab than Joyce does and his cross armed defense was more effective than Joyce`s poor defense.
     
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  9. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    Foreman
    Cooper
    Stewart

    And Joyce would be 4th
     
  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Attrition stoppage
     
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  11. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Na George would fight back too much when hurt, he was tough as old boots.
     
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  12. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Joyces defense is offense so he gets hit less, posters acting like hes a punching bag on here fail to realize he doesn't really take a lot of combos ,he doesn't really take much punishment at all at least thus far bc his opponents are defending his attack.

    Foreman was so slow so he created a defense to block most shots by standing in one spot. You might sneak a counter shot here and there against Joyce but hes not a stand still target that absorbs punishment like Foreman had to at times. Joyces face would never look like a big lump ( see the Foreman /Steward fight ) .

    Joyce has every advantage in a actual fight here beyond chin / power. Joyce would be equally difficult guy to get out of there as Foreman was and he would certainly lose less rounds against same opponents all together. If you can move around Foreman and keep him off with power or combos you win,Joyce has both .,and would not be so easily pushed back ,its easily a 50/50 fight but overall Joyce handles Foremans opponents easier with ability to for a fast pace EVERY round.. Foreman would have a difficult time knocking Joyce out with one shot so that tells me slight edge goes to Joyce and would in all likelihood get a UD.
     
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  13. Serge

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    Big George never faced anyone who had an engine like Triple J and certainly no one who possessed his combination of size and stamina if he did.
     
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  14. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    You know deep down Usyk is the heir apparent at heavyweight....

    How’s Trey Morrison getting on?

    Who was that guy you fought again, who Wilder went on to fight?
     
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  15. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Joyce dominates Cooper, Cooper was short and compact. He'd get pushed back and beaten into oblivion. His frame would be a severe disadvantage.

    I think he beats Stewart in a shootout. Stewart loses because he wouldn't be able to take the punishment Joyce gives, right now,
    it looks like Joyce could take Stewarts heavy shots.

    Foreman beats Joyce, Joyce isn't the type of guy that's gonna box on the backfoot and move and maneuver Foreman (the one sure way to beat old George). Joyce does not win a jab contest with Foreman, And no one in 70+ fights (save Ali) was ever able to just stand in front of Foreman. You can't say Joyce would, because the fact is, it simply never happened. Throughout both careers, it's been shown that you can't win that type of fight against him. You have to do work, get out, reset and do work. That's literally how everyone beat him. Joyce doesn't fight like that, he comes forward with endless pressure. Would be foolhardy IMO to attempt to walk down Foreman.