People that are calling Calzaghe overrated are the same ones on here...

So what? You said to show you any sportswriter that scored the fight for Hopkins, I showed you two.

 

he cant box? idiot. he completely schooled Kessler, Lacy, et al

he's an aggressive boxer who had to do all the work against a very wily and negative Hopkins. and dont give me this perfect defensive performance crap. it was negative and was cynical - especially the low blow bull****. name me one defeat where Hopkins has gone down guns blazing? doesnt happen. hes made a career out of making people look bad, fighting dirty and not getting hurt.

a great defensive boxer is someone like Mayweather who at least comes back with something.

you can content yourself by watching reruns of borefests like Hopkins versus Winky. the rest of us will look forward to something more watchable

 

there was a poll on this board about who won the fight and something like 75% thought Calzaghe won it. and it was a relatively popular poll with many votes.

 

havent heard enzo calzaghes opinion on the hopkins fight despite freddie roach offering interviews and his perspective. Surprising seeing as enzo usually gives his two pence worth about everything else. He thought joe lost he told him he needed a knockout in the last round to win and between rounds 7 and 8 i think he was cursing calzaghe out because hopkins was outgunning him. Enzo wore the look of a very worried man after the final bell rung. Unusual considering hes usually so confident and outspoken

 

and if Usain Bolt could run 9.72 consecutively for 418 x 100m he'd take nearly an hour off the marathon world record.

so Hopkins fought a good first round. shame a boxing match is over 12.

 

of course he would - have you not seen holyfield-lewis 1?

a ko was the only guarantee, i scored it a LOPSIDED decision for calzaghe, hopkins did nothing but hold for dear life every time calzaghe got near him.

he got a great start, but that was it - he did jack **** for the rest of the fight.

if he hadn't have had that knockdown, there would be no discussion whatsoever.

enzo also said that b-hugkins was ready to go after the 6/7 round? obviously he was wrong there - so maybe his statement for start of 12th round should be taken with a pinch of salt.

 

fair points but you cant offer this hopkins look everyone look bad crap he just is that good at executing a gameplan and nullifying fighters strengths which is what hes done for countless numbers of fights. The reason fighters look bad is because they dont adapt to it or are not that good anyway...calzaghe looked bad not through any of hopkins doing hopkins didnt make joe flurry like a lunatic hopkins didnt make joe have a porous defense hopkins didnt make joe throw amateurish punches

 

joe did make hopkins go into a 5 punch a round shell... thats why joe won

 

after the 6th round enxo had it out with joe telling him to sort it out...just watched it back...it was the 9th where he said he was ready to go...if enzo thought joe was winning why tell him to put everything into stopping hopkins in the last round and risk getting tagged again...those risks would be unecessary for a man supposedly "winning comfortably"

 

I'm not going to disagree that Hopkins may be boring to watch, to some, but what he does is an art, and he is one of the best artists out there. He made JC look like an amateur doing anything to get points in the end even if he looked a tart

 

i'll have to agree on that.

but i still think that Hopkins performance was excessively negative and whilst he may have undone Calzaghe's offensive style (to an extent) i dont think he offered anything of himself either to suggest that he was good enough to undo JC's defense (once he adjusted following the knock down).

therefore i'd argue then anything he achieved by unsettling calzaghe's attacking style he failed to validate by contributing offensively. the fact that JC still won while looking so poor says volumes about what Hopkins was doing during the fight i.e dick all.

i like calzaghe (without being a "nut hugger") and it certainly wasnt his best performance but i'd argue this was partly down to wanting to force the fight. he definitely lost his composure but at the end of the day he won.

would like him to go on and fight Tarver, RJJ, Pavlik, Glencoffe and Dawson but looks like we'll only get one of those.

 

i agree on this to. i have posted elswhere before that Hopkins is a master boxer, so please excuse my excessively derogatory remarks

i am just frustrated as to why when he effectively does to calzaghe what he has done to every other boxer he has faced this is then used as a stick to beat the guy down and negate everything he has achieved. when ultimately hopkins didnt have all the answers and lost the fight.

i havent seen enough of hopkins earlier fights but has anyone looked good against him?

 

The same ones huh?

 

He is given his due respect. He is probably the greatest SMW of all-time. But, his career has many flaws, which have been mentioned in the past. E.g. Between Eubank (1998 ) and Lacy (2006 ) he had 8 years where he fought European b/c level fighters in Wales. For those 8 years, he only fought outside of Wales a handful of times. Not that he had to come to the U.S., but he barely left his comfortable Welsh surroundings. He fought in London and Newcastle only three times during those 8 years, but in Wales 9 times. That is like a NY fighter never leaving NY to box. His biggest win was against a 43 year old Hopkins and although he won, he didn't dominate.

Additionally, all of those who had B-Hop in their top ten 160-175 didn't have RJJ in it, but had Pavlik in it. I think some people may have been dissappointed that Calzaghe chose to fight an over-the-hill RJJ rather than Pavlik.

These are just criticisms against an otherwise impressive career. No one will forget his brutal destruction of Jeff Lacy.

 

I had B-Hop near the top of my list - and rightfully rank Joe in his place - but I still give the P4P nod to Pacquiao. I thought B-Hop beat Joe - but I can't give credit to Hopkins because at the end of the day he received the "L". Conversely, Pacman soundly defeated Morales, Barrera, and eeked out a deserved victory over masterful Juan Manuel Marquez.

Tonight's fight will either cement that fact or disprove it.