Will Anthony Joshua's posture get him knocked out?

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  1. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Overeem got caught with PEDS in 2012, 3 year prior to that there were people accusing him of using steroids. Using Overeem as a benchmark to judge vs a clean athlete like AJ is an unfair comparison seeing as one of them was clearly on the juice.
     
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  2. anjawnaymiz

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    the first time I saw AJ fight in the amateurs was in oxford, he was the last fight of the afternoon and when he came out someone sat infront of me said to his mate.... 'oh this the bloke that everyone reckons will be the next frank bruno'
    I did think he had similarities, very upright and a good jab 1-2 and powerful
    the guy he was fighting was some fat Asian guy who walked to the ring with an entourage and he constantly loaded up this enormous left hook that may aswell have came via email from his feet, you could see it a mile off. anyway AJ weathered the early storm and eventually caught fatty with a body shot that had the guy rolling around the canvas in agony for 5 minutes, good show!
     
  3. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah the way he struggled with Washington was a real eye opener. He has the faster and seemingly more effective jab but Washington was really able to prevent him from getting comfortable and finding a rhythm with the jab. Wilder when trying to box more cautiously is less effective. When he slips shots, he leans right back or moves right back and puts himself in bad positions where he can't counter. A fighter with a good jab will have him struggling by constantly putting him in these bad positions.

    We saw something similar vs Szpilka. All the jabs and feints and perhaps the southpaw style had Wilder on the back foot more than he likes as he reacted to Szpilka's attacks and feints. In both the Szpilka and Washington fights once he let his hands go and forced his opponent to be the more defensive one he was far more effective.

    If he has any hope vs Joshua he needs to be the one coming forward and pushing Joshua back. Both are more effective on the front foot. If Wilder finds himself trying to move and box and be cute and defensive while looking for an opening he'll find himself being out boxed.
     
  4. Tarking Rubbish

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    AJ is stiff. There was a champ before him called Wlad something. He was stiff too. Seemed to do ok with his career...
     
  5. Mendoza

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    Impressive post. I'll have to check the films and see, but I think you are mostly correct.
     
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  6. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Oh hell yeah Reem's a dirty cheatin' *******, but I'm not sure how much you can excuse away with PEDs when the subject is something as simple as posture.

    I appreciate it bud.
     
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  7. Outstock

    Outstock PBR Full Member

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    True , buts its also true that Wilder done nothing from rounds 1-4. When he opened up in the 5th he ended the fight. One exchange and Washington was finished.
    I'd agree with you 100% that Joshua would be in total of the fight before Wilder turns it around. Just like in the Washington fight.
     
  8. Mendoza

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    If you ask me, Joshua's stamina could be an issue in the later rounds vs. a younger puncher. Takam did not throw enough punches nor did he had the power, so Joshua cruised a bit in the later rounds.

    Joshua has a visible track record of fouling or getting breaks, this to me signals a weakness as fighters seldom foul unless needed.
     
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  9. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Howdy all.

    Not bumping to gloat but rather bump for the few and far between actual students of the sport.

    If you want me to explain the op a little better I could, probably, make it more clear.
     
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  10. notjustacasual

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    Agree 100 lol at anyone who called this guy a champion. Wilder ko him faster than stiverne 2
     
  11. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he was a champion... like it or not he held the belts and beat some decent fighters.
     
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  12. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The second is coming. Will Joshua improve his posture? Does he have to, to beat Andy?
     
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  13. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It seems to me that Aj has scored far more knockdowns and knockouts during a heated exchange than Wilder has. Wilder is the one who can only generate power from the outside coming in.
     
  14. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, Wilder postures for long range bombs well though. Joshua's been susceptible to a well postured exchange since his debut. I honestly believed it'd be fixed by now, which was why I had worded it as a question. I was curious if others thought he was open for it or if I was just being overly critical.

    Joshua's other foes are hardly posture fighters. It isn't a hugely popular form in the HW division at the moment.

    Take Usyk for example. Usyk's a fantastic boxer who has no technical deficits, but, Usyk is not a posture fighter. He does not move ment with his posture, he does not make openings with his posture. He uses his output more than anything else to enforce his generalship. Not his posture.

    Now take Tyson for example. Tyson loves to bend deep at the waist, lure a man to him, pull back with his upper body while pivoting with his feet to land a countershot. He's a posture fighter using his posture alone to guile his opponent.

    I never said Joshua didn't get exchange KOs, nor did I say they were against poor fighters, I said he postures poorly for the style of fighting he employs and that could end in him being KO'd...which is exactly what happened to the kid. Not all good boxers are good posturers, doesn't mean he wasn't open to one the whole time he was KO'ing men in a heated exchange. Just means they were equally poor posturers....which, Pov, c'mon, Wlad laid on him because that's all Wlad needed to beat him...a real posture game.


    I'm sorry you've a Wilder hangup, I hardly see what he has to do with this.
     
  15. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    So AJ gets constantly out of position to throw well during exchanges?

    Yep - I can see that - and Ruiz has that number.....