Sergey Alexandrovich Kovalev vs. Santos Saúl Álvarez Barragán

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The Krusher or Cinnamon Boy?

Poll closed Nov 2, 2019.
  1. Kovalev on points

    14.7%
  2. Kovalev by stoppage

    41.2%
  3. Draw

    2.9%
  4. Álvarez on points

    25.5%
  5. Álvarez by stoppagae

    15.7%
  1. From.Russia

    From.Russia Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jab is the easiest punch to land, dont see Kova landing much of his powerful right hands, but he gonna hit Canelo with a lot of his power jabs ( strongest jab in todays boxing btw ). Gingers team gonna throw towel in round 10 or 11.
     
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  2. Eel87

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    Yeah that annoyed me too. He tried to touch gloves with Andre Ward in the first fight. I'd like to see kov win due to the way the media has tried to portray him as the bad guy.
     
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  3. Glassbrain

    Glassbrain Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm going Alvarez KO by body shot around 7-9
     
  4. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Same. I just want Golden Fix Promotions to lose its main attraction.
     
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  5. 22JM

    22JM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hearns was at his best when he beat duran Kova is not, not to mention he was faster and more accurate with his punches, Kova is slower, Canelo is going to take advantage and counter that jab.
     
  6. kirk

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    So went back and thought about my picks in Canelos other top fights.

    Canelo to SD Lara
    Canelo to UD/SD Cotto
    Golovkin to come on late to stop Canelo.
    Canelo to UD Golovkin in the rematch.
    Canelo to UD Jacobs.

    Now... obviously those arent shocking picks, and Im not looking for props lol. What I wanted to see though is if I felt I had a good gauge of Canelo, and outside of the first Golovkin fight, in which I admit I simply thought that Canelo wouldnt take Gs power as good as he did late in the fight... besides that, almost every fight has looked pretty much how I thought it would.

    So if Canelo comes out and beats up and stops Kova like many are predicting, or shows himself clearly the dominant one in there, I will legitimately be surprised, and it will be one of the first Canelo fights I will have gotten fundamentally wrong.

    If he wins a highly controversial SD, will admittedly be less surprising I suppose, lol.
     
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  7. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    So what? I picked Canelo dec in all of those fights except Jacobs, who I thought would win a close decision.

    And what I'm pretty sure will happen is that Canelo will be in control of the fight but lay back enough to let Kovalev last the distance and win a few rounds.
     
  8. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    I like both fighters, but I'm rooting for Kovalev on Saturday.

    I'm eagerly anticipating this fight.
     
  9. macademics

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    I give Kovalev the biggest chance of upsetting via a spectacular KO for some reason. I expect Canelo to win but I am not betting against Kovalev for one bit. That 1-2 of his is the money punch/combo. It will be very interesting to see how Canelo deals with 6'1 Kova that knows how to use his jab properly. I expect Canelo to play safe and box to a UD and not risk getting caught.
     
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  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    At this point, it's the only question worth asking: Who will win Saturday's light heavyweight world title bout between Canelo Alvarez and Sergey Kovalev at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas?

    Alvarez (52-1-2, 35 KOs), a middleweight champion, is coming off a unanimous decision victory over Daniel Jacobs in May. Kovalev (34-31, 29 KOs) won the WBO light heavyweight world title with a unanimous decision win over Eleider Alvarez in February. Kovalev defended the belt once, with an 11th-round TKO over Anthony Yarde in August.

    Who takes the win? Our experts make their picks.

    Dan Rafael

    Canelo by KO
    It's an exciting and historic kind of match, and I expect a good fight. Even though Canelo is moving up two divisions to challenge Kovalev, given where each man is in his career, it's hard to pick against the younger, much fresher Canelo, who hand-picked Kovalev to fight and continues to improve in my view. The Kovalev of a few years ago probably beats Canelo handily. Now, the tide has turned. I like Canelo to wear Kovalev down and stop him late.

    Timothy Bradley Jr.


    Canelo by KO9

    I pick Canelo to win late, in a ninth-round stoppage, after he softens Kovalev with body punches. Canelo will play it safe early, and he will look for sharp counterpunches. Once Canelo realizes Kovalev is not physically stronger inside the pocket, he will design an ambush plan to finish Kovalev.

    Juan Manuel Marquez

    Canelo by KO

    If Kovalev wants to win this fight, he needs to go for the KO. He will never win this fight on the judges' scorecards. Not happening. Canelo's body punches will give him the victory.

    Mark Kriegel

    Canelo by decision/late KO
    Canelo didn't ask for Artur Beterbiev. Or Alexander Gvozdyk, the former WBC champ, before Beterbiev took him out. Or Dimitry Bivol, who has the WBA strap. Canelo didn't ask for a light heavyweight title so much as he specifically asked for Kovalev. He sees something. Not only does Kovalev remain the biggest name at 175 pounds, but he's also the most vulnerable of the champions, as his recent win over Anthony Yarde would suggest. He isn't young, at 36. His résumé includes a couple of knockout losses and years of hard living. That doesn't mean this isn't a considerable risk for Canelo. Kovalev has length, size and a big, long, strong as hell jab. But I see Canelo outboxing Kovalev and breaking him down to the body. Canelo by decision, though there's an outside chance of a late stoppage.

    Nick Parkinson

    Canelo by decision/late KO
    Stepping up to light heavyweight, after operating mostly at middleweight in recent years, is a big task for Canelo, but his speed, variety and quality will ensure that he wins either by decision or by late stoppage. Look for Canelo's crunching body shots to hurt Kovalev and possibly leave the judges' redundant. Kovalev has looked vulnerable to the body in recent fights, and Canelo is in hot form.

    Teddy Atlas

    Canelo by KO
    Kovalev is at that age where it can show on a fighter, and it already has. Plus, that difficult fight with Yarde in August, with no time to recover, can be a recipe for disaster. Where Yarde ran out of gas, I'm betting Canelo doesn't and scores a late-round stoppage.


    Nigel Collins

    Canelo by KO
    Size won't be the deciding factor. Alvarez weighted 167.25 for his fight with Rocky Fielding and was probably a light heavyweight by the time he entered the ring. Kovalev might have a slight edge in punching power, but Canelo is better in every other aspect. Just like Andre Ward, Alvarez will stop Kovalev with body shots.

    Steve Kim

    Kovalev by decision
    Kovalev is a career-long light heavyweight, and for as good as Canelo is, he is moving up two weight classes to face him. Kovalev might be vulnerable to the body, but Canelo still has to get past Kovalev's jab to get there. I like Kovalev to box, keep things on the outside and methodically win a decision.

    Eric Raskin

    Canelo by unanimous decision
    From the moment this fight was rumored, even before Kovalev looked shaky against Yarde, it struck me as a perfect style matchup for Canelo. Kovalev doesn't have the pop in his mitts that he once did, and Alvarez is such a skilled defensive fighter that the threat of the bigger man having that "puncher's chance" seems minimal. Canelo will be too quick and slick, will bang the body effectively and will pile up rounds, but I suspect Kovalev's pride will carry him across the finish line as Alvarez captures a wide decision.

    Charles Moynihan

    Canelo by KO8
    Canelo is an underrated defensive fighter and will nullify Kovalev's jab and reach advantage while fighting inside. His work to the body will ultimately be the difference. Canelo by eighth-round knockout.

    Salvador Rodriguez

    Canelo by decision
    Alvarez has a tough task moving up from 160 to 175 pounds in search of a title in a fourth division. It's true that Kovalev is not at his best, but I doubt it will be an easy fight for Canelo. Alvarez has polished his style with trainer Eddy Reynoso, and he has better technique and speed, and that will be a problem for Kovalev when he tries to get close. I expect Canelo to win by decision.

    Bernardo Pilatti


    Kovalev by TKO
    Kovalev is bigger and stronger, uses the jab better than most fighters and has adjusted his style to fight from the outside, resorting many times to counter-punching. Canelo, who could be exposed by trying to get inside to connect his punches, will get into the ring heavier and slower. His speed and power at middleweight won't make a difference. Except for Rocky Fielding, Canelo has not knocked out anyone in the past three years. On paper, Kovalev should hurt him with his power shots and force a stop late in the fight.

    David Faitelson

    Canelo by TKO
    Canelo's speed and body work will be the difference against the bigger Kovalev, whose best days are in the past. A younger and stronger Canelo will dominate Kovalev, who's in a decline.
     
  11. bandeedo

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    for a while i thought canelo might get the stoppage, but im liking what im seeing from kovalev. i believe hes in phenomenal condition and stamina wont be as big of a problem than i figured it could be. he still looks a little too grateful of canelo for my liking, and canelo is the more skilled operator, so im going with canelo by unanimous decision.
     
  12. BCS8

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    Let's not forget that THERE IS a rehydration clause in place:

    "Saul Canelo Alvarez will have a weight HANDICAP in the form of a rehydration clause for his title challenge against WBO light heavyweight champion Sergey Kovalev this Saturday night. According to Dan Rafael, both fighters must weigh-in on Saturday morning for a secondary weight check, and neither fighter can go above 185 pounds."

    https://www.boxingnews24.com/2019/11/canelo-vs-kovalev-has-rehydration-clause-in-contract/
     
  13. Alexxxx

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    I think that Kovalev will win on points but I'm afraid that judges will give the fight to Canelo : )
    I expect Canelo will fight the same way as the first Golovkin fight - stepping back to the ropes and counterpunching. Kovalev will come with his jab followed by combinations. Canelo will not dare to attack bigger opponent all night. He will try to exhaust Kovalev making him throwing many punches in early rounds and counter punching to the body. But I think Sergey is not so stupid to play this game. Imo.
     
  14. PIPO23

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    Kovalev has been looking like Ko shot away from retirement.Every time I see this guy fight he looks like he is ready to go anytime a punch lands. He basically has one foot in retirement but just boosting up his retirements funds. Maybe they don't have retirement benefits in Russia?

    I am picking Canelo by TKO 6. Kovalev on his last legs. Make no mistakes about it.
     
  15. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Would anyone have picked Canelo to win if he was fighting pre-Ward Kovalev? Kovalev outboxed Ward in 2 fights, but people are saying that Canelo is the greater boxer? Really shows you how much Kovalev has declined.

    3 weeks rest + rehydration clause = Classic Canelo
     
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