He didn't land his best on Lewis. Lewis on his own fault was just caught by McCall. Using that type of logic, with some common sense he visible rocked Lewis. Therefore he hits harder than Mercer, Holyfield, Morrison, Bruno and many others who failed to do they same when they landed. I'd add in Tua or Tyson, but they didn't land their best, so I won't go there.
You're welcome. We all go a little wrong sometimes. And you're still a dick. All praise be to allah, of course.
True. And, some of us, like yourself, are just wrong. I have no idea what that’s ^^ supposed to be about... ...and neither does your nanny. Doesn’t she get tired of stuffing that dummy you keep spitting out, back into that ugly mug of yours?
Holmes- Shavers W12 and KO11 Norton W15 Ocasio KO7 Weaver KO12 and KO6 Ali KO10 Berbick W15 L. Spinks KO3 Snipes KO11 Cooney KO13 Cobb W15 Witherspoon W12 J. Smith KO12 and KO8 C. Williams W15 M. Spinks L15 x2 Tyson LKOby4 Mercer W12 Holyfield L12 Ribalta W10 Ferguson W10 McCall L12 Nielsen L12 M. Harris W10 Esch W10 He also beat Evangelista, Zanon, L. Jones, LeDoux, L. Rodriguez, S. Frank, D. Bey. Lewis- Ocasio W8 Mason KO7 Weaver KO6 McCrory KO2 Biggs KO3 Ruddock KO2 Tucker W12 Bruno KO7 McCall LKOby2 and KO5 Morrison KO6 Mercer W10 Akinwande WDQ5 Golota KO1 Briggs KO5 Holyfield D12 and W12 Grant KO2 Botha KO2 Tua W12 Rahman LKOby5 and KO4 Tyson KO8 V. Klitschko KO6
It's close but I would like to add Mike Weaver to Larry's crop of good, contenders. He was just coming into his own around the time Holmes faced him. That was a tough win.
You left a few good names off both resumes... I definitely have a lot more first hand perspective watching Lewis's career as i was just a baby when Holmes was mopping the floor with a PED laden Cassius Clay... Buy I've watched many Holmes fights on youtube and I have great respect for the 15 round fighters of his era. The easy choice is Holmes, as he fought top level Heavyweights across three separate decades. Lewis's hey day was really between 1996 and 2003, hardly even 10 full years. But Lewis did have more success against the top guys, as Holmes' best opponents were almost all when he was past his prime Another point I would make is that Lewis's era was a bit more KO focussed, whereas Holmes's dominance came in the 15 round era when guys were more likey to box it out, and if the KO came, it came... In the 90s guys were looking to take each others heads off But I too will go with Holmes, although I dont think its such a simple cut and dry answer, there are plenty of mitigating factors and it is very debatable. I believe Lewis also fought and KOd several guys who were suspected of steroid use . Of course Clay was on PEDs when he fought Holmes, but they were more of the weight cutting variety
Larry Holmes as champion did face tougher competition in his era, Gerry Cooney, Ken Norton, past prime George Foreman, Earnie Shavers, Renaldo Snipes, James Bonecrusher Smith, Mike Hercules Weaver, and Terrible Tim Witherspoon. He got dropped by Shavers in their title fight on Sept 28 1979, in round 7, but he showed heart and a tough jaw as he did in his 1981 encounter against Snipes, to rise up and score the kayo wins. Lennox Lewis faced Frank Bruno, Evander Holyfield, Vitali Klitchko, Oliver McCall, Tommy Morrison, Hassim Rahman, Razor Ruddock,and David Tua,as well as post prime Tyson. Holmes did go down for good against prime Tyson, in 1988. As I have said, you can only fight the fighters of your era, not from the future or past. But Lewis in his prime, was kayoed at the hands of Oliver McCall and Hassim Rahman, did not get up, took the full 10 count. Sure he won in the rematches, but the knockout losses are still blemishes on his record.
Fair go. Not far? It was over 9 years later. It was Weavers last ever fight. Weaver was 49 years old. He was 40 and well past it when he fought Lewis. It was the young kid looking for experience against the veteran trailhorse. Holmes didn't actually knock out Weaver in either fight. They were both TKO's. Their first fight was a classic with an improving Weaver taking peak Holmes very deep before succumbing late. Both were exhausted at the finish.
Thanks for correcting me on post prime Foreman facing Holmes, they never met, I was thinking of Holyfield vs Foreman, in 1991. Would have been a great dream fight.
Looking at it objectively, as a flat list of names faced, you could say that, other than Norton and Ali (which would be a highly dubious include), Holmes lost to all the top opponents he faced - Spinks, Tyson, Holyfied. Mercer is definitely in with a shout as a top 5 win For Holmes.
All good. I figured it was Holy you were thinking of. It happens when rattling off a succession of names.
