Who was Ray's toughest oponent? Duran or Hearns

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by BrainyBoxer, Nov 9, 2019.



Leonard's toughest opponent

Poll closed Jan 18, 2020.
  1. Thomas Hearns

    23 vote(s)
    71.9%
  2. Roberto Duran

    9 vote(s)
    28.1%
  1. BrainyBoxer

    BrainyBoxer Active Member Full Member

    681
    671
    Mar 18, 2016
    Duran beat him but Hearns always gave him problems with his jab even outboxing him in the first fight until he got tired.
     
  2. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

    11,855
    5,366
    Feb 26, 2009
    This is a tough one to answer. And then you put Benitez in there, which was also tough. He couldn't even go to the post fight party he was so sore. I think each fight taught him more and more. I think Benitez,Duran and Hearns wore him out where he needed and early retirement.
     
    Tramell and Fergy like this.
  3. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

    9,600
    17,682
    Jul 25, 2015
    Duran. He struggled to hit him, ala Benitez, and got pounded in return.

    Oh, and he lost.
     
  4. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,717
    8,911
    Nov 21, 2009
    SAY WHAT? LMAO
     
  5. Golden_Feather99

    Golden_Feather99 Active Member Full Member

    683
    1,020
    Apr 23, 2019
    Thomas Hearns. Duran beat Leonard in a close fight. But Leonard outclassed him the other two times. Hearns outboxed Leonard both times (8 years apart). So overall, I'd have to say Hearns was the tougher matchup.
     
    Tramell, TipNom and MURK20 like this.
  6. MURK20

    MURK20 Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,441
    1,218
    Sep 26, 2008
    Montreal was so close. Duran's victory was celebrated so much people forget that Leonard fought well in that fight.
     
    Last edited: Nov 10, 2019
    Golden_Feather99 likes this.
  7. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

    11,842
    15,174
    Oct 4, 2016
    Duran,,,a far better career fighter than Hearns
     
    Odins beard likes this.
  8. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

    12,608
    10,372
    Mar 19, 2012
  9. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    23,576
    1,949
    Aug 26, 2004
    Duran was in fantastic shape in Montreal - Best conditioned for him ever at 147 lbs - that was Leonards hardest fight because he lost and was hurt badly in the fight.

    Hearns in fight one boxed well and very competitive until Ray came back to stop Tommy- 2nd fight at a higher weight -I thought Tommy won - think they called it a draw but Ray hit the floor 2x- I have never watched fight 2 since their fight so may be off on details.

    Still Duran of Montreal - a beast
     
    ETM and Odins beard like this.
  10. joebeadg

    joebeadg Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,908
    1,006
    Dec 3, 2005
    toughest opponent, not toughest fight. Duran was most definatley a much tougher guy that Hearns could ever hope to be. Hearns was almost delicate, hit him hard and he's on ***** street, homosexual ave. Duran was one of the toughest fighters ever!!!!
     
  11. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,725
    7,798
    Oct 22, 2015
    Wow a real tough question! But I'd lean towards Duran. Here's why and its real simple. Without the hell Duran put Leonard through in Montreal he probably don't beat Hearns their 1st fight. Duran made Leonard a much better and determined fighter. He learned something about himself. Duran brought out the best of Leonard like Lomatta brought out the best of Robinson, Schmeling created the best Louis, Frazier created the toughest version of Ali. So the Duran in Montreal fight set up the come from behind win against Hearns in fight #1. It also set up the Kalule win when he fought pretty much flat footed and determined for the Ko against him. And the Hagler fight when Hagler started getting to Leonard during the later stages of that Fight. Duran made Leonard a much better fighter.
     
    Marvelous Marvin and Titan1 like this.
  12. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member Full Member

    48,268
    35,064
    Apr 27, 2005
    Yet Hearns dumped Duran face first on the canvas in a way he'd never been left before, or since. It was a completely one sided massacre.

    Per the question one can look at it so many ways.

    Duran put a fair beating on Leonard in their first fight even if it is reasonable close when scored on the basis it was fought under. Leonard however made him quit in the rematch and may not have even conceded a round in the rubber match. So we have one extremely tough outing and basically two walks in the park truth be told.

    Hearns outboxed him for the majority of rounds they fought. He dropped him twice and probably caused the need for eye surgery. Leonard however did eventually stop him and did have him in trouble in the rematch where as Duran was never really in trouble.

    Leonard improved a bit post Duran, thanks to Duran, and was peak for Hearns.

    You can argue every which way depending on personal criteria. With Duran you've got the first fight only where as with Hearns you have two of them. Over the duration Hearns was for sure the tougher opponent but in a single outing the first Duran fight would be trumps.
     
    KuRuPT likes this.
  13. Blaxx

    Blaxx Member Full Member

    476
    547
    Feb 8, 2018
    Leonard's face after the first Hearns fight holds the answer. Benitez and Duran were tough in a different way but Hearns made Leonard dig deep in a way nobody else would have.
     
  14. Eel87

    Eel87 Active Member Full Member

    942
    435
    Nov 10, 2014
    I think Leonard said himself that Hearns was his toughest opponent.
     
  15. surfinghb1

    surfinghb1 Member Full Member

    477
    833
    Jul 28, 2019
    Hearns floored him twice