Can a extremely strong powerlifter be a hard Puncher if he learned proper technique ?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by WillieWild, Nov 11, 2019.



  1. WillieWild

    WillieWild Member banned Full Member

    143
    39
    Aug 3, 2019
    Would like to know if the powerlifters have potential to be knockout artists since they are extremely strong.
     
    lloydturnip likes this.
  2. POTUS

    POTUS Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,887
    3,917
    Nov 26, 2016
    This content is protected
     
  3. Sammy123

    Sammy123 Money Maker Staff Member

    2,470
    1,581
    Apr 15, 2015
    Anybody can be a powerlifter if they train hard enough.

    You cant train yourself to be a power puncher. Pauli Malinaggi cant train himself to punch hard like felix trinidad.

    Powerlifting is as all about lifting heavy weights and getting strong. That doesn't translate to punching power. Punching power is derived from speed and mass, including everything from individual muscle fiber to bone density. Your mostly born with these traits so you can only marginally improve what you already have, and most fighters can really only improve speed, not the power behind it. Though keep in mind even speed is mostly genetically determined as well, most fighters cant train themselves to have fast twitch muscle fibers and reflexes on the level of a Pacquiao or prime Roy Jones.

    Also, speed alone is why powerlifters won't punch hard. They're used to lifting very heavy weights slowly for one rep or 5 rep max, thus muscle movement will be drastically slow compared to pure boxers. They probably cant even use their strength to push you around the ring. Just look at McGregor who is very strong but Mayweather pushed him back like a ragdoll.
     
    Last edited: Nov 11, 2019
  4. Boxcel

    Boxcel Member Full Member

    387
    476
    Jan 31, 2019
    Explosiveness is key to generating power, which requires fast twitch muscles. Many powerlifter do things to shorten the range of motion as much as possible and also lift slowly. I've seen the powerlifter squad walk around in the lifting gym I go to and they all waddle around like penguins.

    Strength does help transfer force with stiff punches but it means nothing when you don't have snap and can't generate the force.

    I bench press for speed and explosiveness, and I use a close grip to maximize my range of motion. A few months ago I hit 395 close grip and possibly able to do 405 before I injured my rotator cuff a few weeks later. Since I focus a lot on speed work and Shadow boxing my speed didn't suffer. The strength increase from lifting heavy allowed me to transfer the force better, but it didn't increase my snap.
     
  5. BoxingDialogue

    BoxingDialogue Active Member Full Member

    835
    1,540
    Apr 26, 2019
    You don’t need great speed to punch hard like people keep saying. Alfredo Angulo in his prime was one of the hardest punchers in boxing and also one of the slowest.
     
  6. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

    36,654
    16,430
    May 4, 2017
    ;)
     
  7. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

    21,988
    6,083
    Sep 21, 2013
    I'd be more interested in how hard a top level shot-putter or MLB player punches instead.
     
  8. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

    70,975
    36,278
    Sep 29, 2012
    That an alt of yours Mark? :lol: Seems like the kind of thread you'd make.
     
    Beouche, gmurphy, Malph and 4 others like this.
  9. ellerbe

    ellerbe It’s a Tank world Full Member

    36,603
    13,063
    Jul 25, 2014
    You could spot the autism from a mile away.
     
    Jobo1878 and UnleashtheFURY like this.
  10. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

    7,141
    5,004
    Oct 22, 2015
  11. RealDeal

    RealDeal Pugilist Specialist Full Member

    1,540
    1,556
    May 2, 2009
    I used to do competitive powerlifting, and I have to say that powerlifting is all about genetics. Some people are never going to be able to squat 600 lbs no matter how hard they train, while others can hit 600 with less than a year of training. It’s just as genetic as punching power is. You are correct that it doesn’t translate very well to punching though. I doubt a 300 lb champion powerlifter could punch any harder than your average 300 lb fat guy.
     
    It's Ovah and AlwaysFirst like this.
  12. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

    9,749
    6,924
    Jul 31, 2018
    Flexibility is important, if you got tight muscles from all that powerlifting you aint going tk generate a fluid punching motion the fist needs to fly smoothly through the air without being held back by tight bulky muscle
     
    lloydturnip likes this.
  13. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

    27,683
    38,393
    Jan 7, 2014
    Fast twitch muscle fibers are largely used when powerlifting, they are your (power muscles). They are responsible for your speed and power. But just because you can lift a lot, it doesnt mean you can generate a good punch, but it can help.
     
    WillieWild, BCS8 and Heavy_Hitter like this.
  14. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

    9,870
    8,201
    Oct 1, 2011
    Exactly! George Foreman.
     
  15. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    20,642
    24,805
    Jul 4, 2014
    And some guys who are extremely fast can't hit that hard. Chris Byrd, for example.