Can a extremely strong powerlifter be a hard Puncher if he learned proper technique ?

Baseball pitcher mode is when Felix Trinidad starts stutter stepping...

 

I think tennis players and fast cricket bowlers could punch too.

 

I don't see why not.

Power punching isn't this big mystery that fans like to think it is. Provided you learn proper technique and have a strong core and good joint integrity then you can punch hard. Foreman wasn't as strong as the best powerlifters in his weight class, but he was able to utilise his strength to batter his opponents with minimal speed.

Trouble with most powerlifters is that they're squat little fireplugs with T Rex arms from constant benching. That throws up a whole heap of mechanical issues that could affect their punching form. Strongmen are more suited to crossing over.

 

So despite your skepticism about the value of just lifting, you supplement training for speed & punching with very heavy weights.
The amount you pressed is, by accounts I have read & observation, more than an average person could ever develop in a lifetime. Naturally.
Have you used some PEDs, or besides the hard work, are you big boned/genetically blessed?

 

Well largely genetics, besides hard work & training efficiently, including adequate diet.
But the genetics includes what kind of receptors you have for drugs.
Just shoving many times the male hormone your body could ever produce in makes one much stronger, then add stacking & potentiating drugs & the amount of muscle & strength almost dwarfs what the same man could ever accomplish drug-free.
The numbers the non-naturals put up are way elevated from more than gear folks wear.
Google maximum natural muscle & see the difference.
[url]https://www.google.com/search?q=maximum+muscular+potential&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1-ab[/url]

 

People in gyms and the non boxing public often think that guys with big chest and arm muscles and sparrow legs hiding in jogging bottoms can fight or are tough hit hard etc. Occasionally people turn up at the gym I go to and normally don't come a second time .looking foolish in a ring against a decent boxer normally much smaller is part of sparing certainly for me .The gym guys don't like it too embarrassing ! Pity they might enjoy it if they kept learning

 

Most of these big swole power lifters can't punch for ****. They arm punch like crazy with no real power behind it. If you have some size to you and can box a amateur will make quick work out of these gassing juice heads in a fight.

 

Speed, fluidity, range of motion, flexibility, technique, and proper footwork are the key ingredients in punching power and the majority of powerlifters fall mighty short in many if not all of them. Imbsure there are some who can, but they are the exception and not the rule.

Heavy handed guys derive most of their power from above the waist. The explosive punchers - he special ones - the chain reaction and snap starts at their feet, travels through their legs while their waste serves as the transmission, up through the core through the rear delta, forward through the front delta, triceps, and pecs. Its a long and meticulous but explosive process and their cant even be a slight hitch anywhere in that chain or pause - if there is you just belly flopped or telegraphed the whole thing and opened yourself wide open to a counter. Its a special process and a lot of ingredients you are mostly born with make up those ingredients.

Mentality, timing, and accuracy make up the intangibles. Mentality is very underrated. I couod always easily dunk a basketball despite being 6'2 and white. It wasnt that i was more athletic than dudes IMHO, it was that they jumped with the hoop as their destination, I jumped with the moon as my destination with a quick drop off at the rim. To be a murderous puncher you gotta punch with the intent to kill EVERYBODY WHO EVEN SEES IT - not just to knockout your opponent. I mean just summon every ounce of energy between here and hell, and channel it into a laser show at some poor clown.

 

Yes lifting weights is a supplement, and it is beneficial in giving your power a boost. The caveat is it's not going to do much if you do not have the other components of punching ironed out.

I have broad shoulders and am fast twitch dominant. However the key to getting strong is just properly dieting. 405 bench while impressive, is not very rare among the veteran lifters.

 

Schooled many people like that in my ring days.

 

Tall, lanky, chicken legged basketball players seem to be the most likely to have explosive punching power. Let me see if I can dig up an example...

 

Basketball players in general they don't have punchers mentality (despite the obvious physical advantages that could make them rangy KO punchers)

Rugby-NFL guys have the bad-intent mentality to be good punchers, also a Baseball Pitcher with intent to deliver power down their fast hand......Punchers in general have unrealistic expectations of their punching power paired with a deeply seated sense of grandiosity, which forces them to use everything to deliver that KO.

Edwin Valero is a good example of an average sized guy for his weight...with no stereo-typical long limb rangy puncher or tank built counter puncher, El Inca was vindictively wired to harm adversaries & always deliver a KO punch. The whole fight he was obsessed with finding a way to harm the warm body sharing the ring with him.

The best KOs in elite level fights *require* the mental ability to absorb pain & come back with an effective counter attack.

 

Interesting & seemingly all true.
Except I do not think the B-ball analogy holds.
I do not think merely trying to jump your highest makes much difference.
Guys have mucho Ego invested in dunking.
Those dudes mostly could not dunk if you gave them your advice & 100 million bucks for doing it (assuming not doing specialized training which might get them over the rim).

You cn remain still humble & recognize you have good genetics for leaping.

 

I know it is not 'very rare' for veterans lifters.
But that selectes for guys that continue due to not just persistence, but ability.
And so many of them juice.

All I am saying is that 4 plates-particularly for close grip presses-is clearly beyond the lifetime potential of an average dude who never uses any PEDs.
That is very different from looking at those who so well at it & often are using drugs.

Agreed?

 

Sure. Powerlifting is a good base for power. It increases the density of your bones and muscles so you get a natural mass, and since power is mass x speed you have one element for power largely in place.

You will have to train a lot of technique and loss muscle in some places (and probably gain in some others) to get good leverage and flexibility, but there's no reason why you can't do that. I heard Mosley was a powerlifter before he committed to boxing and he wasn't exactly slow and stiff.