The RAW TRUTH About Canelo Alvarez's 2019...

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  1. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Did he fight the same fight against Canelo as Yarde and Eleider though?
    Compubox Canelo jabs 63/577 power 52/168
    Compubox Yarde jabs 115/404 power 108/282
    Compubox Alvarez II jabs 60/391 power 153/425
    He threw about 50% more jabs, about 50% fewer power shots, and landed 50% as often in the Canelo fight.
     
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  2. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jacobs laid an egg against Canelo
     
  3. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    You rely on box rec & compubox to tally up your decisions.
    Try to REALLY learn the sport for yourself. You wont maqke yourself look so silly maybe then
     
  4. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    great post
     
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  5. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Man like you say, Jacobs and then Kovalev back to back.

    Who else, in recent times has fought a top 3 guy at MW and then a top 3 guy at LHW, back to back.

    I mean Hopkins fought Taylor then Tarver going 1-1. Has anyone else done it recently?

    I can't think of anyone.
     
  6. Antigoon

    Antigoon Active Member Full Member

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    Pacquaio needs a mention in that regard, me thinks? The oldtimer fight against Thurman sure wasn't seen as a walkover before the bout itself.
     
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  7. Bigdog2002

    Bigdog2002 Active Member Full Member

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    CANELO is a beast !!! His peers respect him because they know how good he is! Only beta sims cry over his greatness and can’t accept it because it makes them feel bad about their place in life and society!
     
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  8. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    Compubox? ****ing compubox? Some guy just sitting ringside with his keyboard? GTFO.

    Yarde and Eleider are not on Canelo´s level. They aren´t as defensive not do they counter as effectively as Canelo.
    Kovalev had a very hard time landing power punches due to Canelo´s defence and counter punches.
     
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  9. fenoc1

    fenoc1 Active Member Full Member

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    Nah Canelo beat Jacobs that night, scores were about fair
     
  10. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Compubox is the greatest and most fair tool we have of evaluating fights. People who don't trust compubox are usually not the best at scoring fights and don't pay attention to what's landing and what's being blocked. I trust compubox a thousand times more than I trust anyone on this site. Anyone. They are all so ridiculously biased and will miss half of what is going on in a fight sometimes. Compubox by comparison is clean, accurate, doesn't pick favorites, isn't swayed by the commentators, doesn't score on aggression, blood, or who's taller, doesn't recognize A-side or B-side. You want to know what happened in a fight round by round? It tells you. The only drawback is it can't tell you how hard the shots are, how much ring generalship a fighter showed, or how long they controlled the ring. Even if they aren't perfect, they are far more accurate than judges and fans, and correctly predict who should have won a fight probably 95% of the time.

    "Kovalev had a very hard time landing power punches due to Canelo's defense and counter punches." Let's examine that. Canelo landed 133 punches 104 of which were power shots. Alvarez landed 111 punches including 78 power shots. Yarde landed 132 punches including 114 power shots. The number of punches that Canelo was landing were roughly the same as what Yarde did but Kovalev still threw and landed twice as many power shots against Yarde. Also, Kovalev's power punches landed at twice the percentage of his jabs. Kovalev increased his jab output by 50 percent and decreased his power punch output by 50 percent for no good reason, unless you think that Canelo hits harder than Yarde.
     
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  11. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    I’m no fan of Canelo but he clearly beat Danny J, GGG in the second fight in my view, and then takes out an older slower LHW.

    Canelo cried for so long, even walked away from the belt, that he is not a MW yet the man is now a LHW champ and is making history.
    How can you not give him props even if he has picked his way to the top :bash:

    Canelo is doing things other fear and that is jumping up division after division and making history but he is still a szhit stain:bandit:
     
  12. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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  13. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Canelo didn't look great against Jacobs but no one thought Canelo lost to Jacobs, stop!
     
  14. Antigoon

    Antigoon Active Member Full Member

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    I've always wondered what the compubox thing is...

    Is it like a software thing counting punches landed and thrown through the recorded video of a fight? Because the way you describe it, it sounds machine-like. If yes, then that's impressive, but I can still see some room for error there, as small as it might be, just like with any other software.

    If it's just a bunch of people watching a fight and counting stuff, then there is definately plenty of room for error and even bias there.

    Anyone know?
     
  15. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    This thread too raw for Clen Girlz. Too gluten.