An honest assessment of wilder

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  1. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Chris Byrd, Eddie Chambers, Cedric Boswell, Ruslan Chagaev, Marco Huck, Andrzej Wawrzyk, Manuel Charr, Carlos Takam, Mike Perez, Mariusz Wach, Johann Duhaupas, Christian Hammer and David Price. Not the best at all but **** when compared to Wilder it's a lot better.
     
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  2. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So?
     
  3. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I would disagree — for instance you count Duhaupas when Povetkin had failed a drug test and Johann took it on line 24 hours notice and had to actually borrow boxing shoes. That’s utter crap.
     
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  4. MURK20

    MURK20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All of those guys suck compared to Ortiz. Dont lie to yourself.
     
  5. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Interesting. I hope we get to see the fight happen.
     
  6. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, Ortiz isn't that good. He eats right hands a lot and he lacks footspeed and a half decent resumé. Chagaev is certainly better than him.
     
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  7. Mendoza

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    He can dish it out but can he take it? I say heck no and that’s why he fights the old and slow or vs people who can’t punch.

    His style works vs the non aggressive. Hang back, play defense and eventually land that big Right hand. It’s it’s close the judges have his back.

    if he went after people like Tyson or Foreman I’d respect him more. He fights like he does to limit his chances of being stopped.

    An all time fraud who has belt milked his way to a Lot of $$$
     
  8. MURK20

    MURK20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ortiz is better, a far harder punch and faster than Chagaev. I'll 100% bet the house that Ortiz mops him.
     
  9. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Now maybe but peak Chagaev would've been more than game. You really overrate Ortiz. What's this devastating fighter he's supposed to have been? Based on what? Not much.
     
  10. Work the body

    Work the body Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How can you not like Wilder? He’s pure entertainment. I’m on edge every time I watch him knowing he can end it any second.
     
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  11. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Povetkin is /was a Hype job hiding in Russia..........whats his best "win" Eddie fatty Chambers", lol,...........the man never delivered, never won a meaningful belt, is a Roid cheat and ran for years from glass chinned jab and grab WK claiming not being ready and when they eventually met he was ragdolled like a kid...pathetic....and that was the "Prime "version.

    To put it into perspective.......Povetkin was iced by the stiff Bodybuilder who crumbled like a cookie in his VERY NEXT FIGHT against a late fat sub who was picked to loose.
     
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  12. MURK20

    MURK20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not overrating him but you're certainly underrating. I give him props because he has given the most dominate heavyweight the most problems so far. Fury looked like a goofball. Ortiz is a very good fighter and all the other heavyweights know it that's why he's avoided. Even Holyfield said that Wilder was stupid for taking the rematch because he sees how dangerous Ortiz is. Get past a monster like that, move on. This is Evander Holyfield's thinking. Come on man.
     
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  13. blackfella96

    blackfella96 Active Member Full Member

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    He is the best puncher there is. When he is focused, he is waiting for the opportunity to land. He has speed, athleticism, height and reach advantages, decent jab, decent chin, and supreme confidence. From his last two fights, you can clearly see that he ain't some novice throwing wildly anymore, he throws that right hand with intent. The punch he landed on Ortiz happened when there was 2 seconds left in the round, he was literally waiting for the best opportunity and took it....and look out Ortiz ended up. He doesn't get enough credit, he knows when you make a mistake and is quick enough to act on it, something only high level fighters can do.
     
  14. MrFoFody

    MrFoFody Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ortiz is a bit overrated due to the lack of quality scalps in his resume. Then again it isn't his fault for the lack of quality opponents he's faced as no one is exactly lining up to face him. Ortiz has been largely avoided his whole career.
     
  15. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    Whether fighters are 100%, Wilder still has a chance to beat them. U also left out two of the most important factors for Wilder. Confidence in himself , which people mistake as arrogant. His will to win carries him through fights.
     
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