Lets be honest. Muhammad Ali is good, but not that great...

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  1. Emerald Oracle

    Emerald Oracle Active Member Full Member

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    It's actually the complete opposite, the Cassius Clay myth is spread mostly by casuals.
     
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  2. Gymbot

    Gymbot Active Member Full Member

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    Because you say so? :risas3:
     
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  3. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh geez!!! Ali would make Tyson's head look like he'd stuck it into a hornets nest, Wlad? when Ali pops his glass jaw around the 10th Wlad spirals in like a shot duck. Vitali and Lewis might make the distance . Fury is an overrated joke
     
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  4. WhoIsAli

    WhoIsAli Boris Full Member

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    I appreciate your feedback, but looking at who has more belts. Even fat lad has 4, Ali has how many ....?
     
  5. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :duh Don't be stupid... there's way too much of that here already o_O
     
  6. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Boxing? He couldn't lace Ali's boots at anything.

    As a person, a fighter, a promoter or as an influential figure.
     
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  7. IntentionalButt

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    One thing, mate. He cuts a damn easier sight in lady's undergarments than I reckon the Lip would. If either of them were to have found success performing as drag queens instead of pugilists, I'd have to give Oscar the nod.
     
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  8. Skins

    Skins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There was only one belt when Ali fought, and he had it. Twice. As a huge underdog to two of the baddest dudes to ever lace them up
     
  9. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    2. He also had them 3 times.
     
  10. WhoIsAli

    WhoIsAli Boris Full Member

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    Key word being “had”. Ruiz hasn’t lost them, therefore, he is the king. Enough said, thank you and good night.
     
  11. Skins

    Skins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    True. I never really count the Spinks thing. Feel like he just loaned the title to him so he could win it back again
     
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  12. George Crowcroft

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    Well there were two titles, WBA and WBC. He was technically a 4 time WBA champ, as he was stripped of it for the Liston rematch (I think?), and regained it when he beat Terrel.
     
  13. kdyehs

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    I think Ali is the greatest HW of all time, without consideration for the media, movies or general opinions. What defines a great fighter is the quality of his opponents. Ali had great level of adversity. Fastest hands, great defensive, best footwork, amazing ring generalship, great chin and power. I think prime Ali beats all heavyweights today.



    Frazier was better than Tyson (one of the most overrated HW of all time IMO). Wlad lost to many doubtful contenders, he had a decade of domination because of his super size but then lately lost to Joshua who lost to Ruiz. Lewis was too slow for Ali. Ali was big and tall enough to compete against super heavyweights at 6'3.
     
  14. Skins

    Skins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    LOL!:eek:
     
  15. Skins

    Skins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    True, forgot about the Terrell thing. We all know Ali was The Champ regardless of Ernie, even Terrell knew it, but he got a nice payday out of the deal
     
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